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ky56 , in Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore

Framework tackling phones is useless if they go the mainstream SoC route (Qualcomm, Mediatek) as they don't have the software team needed to make those work properly (I would argue alot of handset manufactures don't either). From what I hear you need a hell of software team to "fix" the garbage Android SDK released for those chips. Most importantly is if they go the closed mainstream SoC route which have EoL SDK support dates then what's the point of building a durable repairable phone at a higher price point when you have to throw it out at the same as everyone else?

I want to see Framework enter the Linux phone market using "open" chips like Rockchip alongside Pine64's Pinephone (Pro) and the Librem 5 as I think they would more likely have the funds, dev time and community support to help bring say PostmarketOS into a usable state then have to rework the SDK. This way the phone's EoL date would be determined be the local phone infrastructure shutdowns. A much longer amount of time.

JackGreenEarth , in Review: Framework’s Laptop 16 is unique, laudable, fascinating, and flawed
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Straight away I can see wasted space next to the keyboard which could be used for a numpad

avidamoeba ,
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You can have a numpad. Check the review.

eelco ,
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@avidamoeba @JackGreenEarth you can have the numbad now and remove it later. And put it back. Total flexibility. Can’t wait to have it delivered

helenslunch , in Review: Framework’s Laptop 16 is unique, laudable, fascinating, and flawed
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Once you're spending more than $2,000 on a 5-pound laptop, most people would be better off buying multiple computers—an inexpensive thin-and-light laptop for battery life and portability, plus a good midrange desktop for performance and comfort.

Yeah, I mean, you would. But if that configuration works for you, this is simply not a product for you. This product is for people who need portable power. 🤷

helenslunch , in Review: Framework’s Laptop 16 is unique, laudable, fascinating, and flawed
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Apparently Framework sent out a bunch of flawed test units to reviewers. That's why some reviewers had drastically different experiences. That was an epic fail.

Showroom7561 , in Review: Framework’s Laptop 16 is unique, laudable, fascinating, and flawed

My issue with the Laptop 16 is more about the design of the computer itself, how it's positioned, and the need it serves—things that are more fundamental and harder to fix.

Design is subjective. I think it's beautiful and extremely functional.

The need it serves is a laptop that doesn't have to be replaced every few years. Saves money in the long term, helps the environment, and is far more future proof than anything else.

Not hard. Framework has been killing it with their previous models.

Once you're spending more than $2,000 on a 5-pound laptop, most people would be better off buying multiple computers—an inexpensive thin-and-light laptop for battery life and portability, plus a good midrange desktop for performance and comfort.

Does this guy live in the real world? This sounds like sarcasm, but it's not.

The bad

  • Relatively expensive for what you're getting.
  • On the larger and heavier end of the 15-to-16-inch > laptop spectrum.
  • GPU module adds a lot of size and weight.
  • Upgradeability currently more of a hypothetical >future benefit, though Framework does have an >established track record now.

Expensive yes, but you are getting a lot. And you save money in the long-term.

Larger end.. Yeah, it's a 16" laptop....

GPU is optional, and anyone who needs it in a laptop are willing to take that weight penalty.

Upgradability is a hypothetical future benefit? Framework already offers upgrades to their other models. And even a battery swap, which isn't always possible, easy, or budget friendly, is a snap.

This review is so short slighted, and seems to miss the actual point of owning a framework laptop.

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