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Buying advice (Zigbee)

I’m planning to put HA on a pi, with a usb antenna

I can’t decide which bulbs to use, Philips hue looks great but it’s pricey and I’m pretty sure it’s got too much “phone home” crap. I don’t want anything to leave my network. If I can use Hue bulbs without the hub, or block the hub from phoning home I would consider it?

I found some Sengled bulbs that look fine, but I don’t know if they are any good.

Can someone recommend some decent bulbs? Colour ones preferably, but white is OK too.

Any other advice? Got a home server, so can host just about anything to get this working together.

Giulo ,

Hey there, I've got the same Zigbee dongle in HA through Zigbee2mqtt and it runs flawlessly.

Zigbee by design is fully local and can't phone home, and everything that uses Zigbee will be able to pair directly with your dongle without using the Hue hub. Check Zigbee2mqtt docs to ensure compatibility of the items you're planning to buy, but almost all of them should work.

I've got Hue and Ikea bulbs along with other Zigbee switches working perfectly. If Hue is too pricey, check Ikea Tradfri or any other recommended by Zigbee2mqtt docs.

p5f20w18k OP ,
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Thanks for the advice, I'll look at the docs.

How's your RAM usage for HA? The pi I have is only 2gb, already runs pihole but I can buy another/run HA on my server, but if I don't need to, then I won't.

Giulo ,

I ran HA on a pi 3 and then upgraded to a NUC with a Celeron using 4gb of RAM mostly because I used Plex at that time and needed better transcoding.

You can try running HAOS supervised on your Pi. Running supervised will let you run addons within HA such as pihole, Zigbee2mqtt, Mosquitto, Node-RED and others. After that, you can verify if you actually need to upgrade your hardware. You'll probably be fine with that amount of RAM.

fluxx ,

When you switched from pi3 to NUC , did you notice any performance improvements? I'm asking because I run my setup on a rpi3 and it mostly works ok, but the latency is sometimes high, so I'm wondering if upgrading the host will improve things.

Giulo ,

I didn't, but because the pi already worked fine and didn't have many addons running. I have since introduced tailscale, diyhue, frigate without a tpu, etc and the nuc has been rock solid (even with 4gb of RAM and a Celeron J3455).

I think it comes down to what addons you run and what type of storage you use (if you're using an SD card on your pi, you might want to boot from an SSD instead). Also if your zigbee dongle is old like the Nortek one, you might see improvements in responsiveness when upgrading to a zigbee 3.0 stick.

fluxx ,

I have a newer ZigBee 3.0 dongle and run a few add-ons, but nothing big - z2m, nodered, mosquito is all I use. I will upgrade anyway, but I'm not in a hurry, it works fine, apart from an occasional delay in switching, which might be network related.

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