Ok, fuck me, you got me mad enough to answer, gr8 b8 m8.
I want this on record that the only reason I am wasting my time replying to your tankie ass (and yes, I checked your post history, you're a tankie, surprising absolutely nobody) is so that if someone runs into this pathetic excuse for a rebuttal they don't believe for a second that I bought this as an actually valid response.
My surviving jewish family were freed from a nazi death camp by the people you call fascists.
Who asked?
Who the fuck cares, and for that matter who the fuck believes a rando on the internet just happens to have the right personal anecdote to pull rank in an online conversation? Fuck off with that shit. If I told you my wife is jewish and her grandfather died in Auschwitz would you believe me? Would it make you reconsider the validity of my argument? Of course it fucking wouldn't.
What does conquering and breaking up an enemy installation have to do with what form of governance is running a country? The soviets broke up auschwitz because they broke up every installation they ran across, as you do when conquering enemy land. That has nothing to do with whether stalinist Russia was or wasn't a fascist shithole.
Not all fascist regimes committed the holocaust. Most of them have committed genocides, and yes that very much includes the soviets, but talking about Fascism at large is not an invitation to barge in, well-achshually-ing as if the only fascist regimes to ever exist were the fucking Axis in WW2, no matter how much your obvious commie ass would like to believe that.
Hell the Axis didn't even include all the explicitly fascist countries of the time, (since Franco's Spain wasn't in it) let alone all of the ones that came and went since.
I literally link you to a well known mainstream Jewish historian and activist about this issue.
Sure, and? Neither being well known, mainstream, nor an activist are indicators of your understanding of political theory and the specific meanings and ideologies behind currents.
Technically speaking fucking Alex Jones is a well known mainstream activist if you go by raw numbers and popularity, and i doubt his opinion is worth listening to.
But even then, you absolutely shat the bed on linking the guy because, spoilers: I never even brought up the holocaust until this point, nor have I compared it to the holodomor and other genocides.
Nor would I, because I am not a fucking idiot.
No part of any definition of fascist requires the genocidal zeal the nazis exhibited, and if it makes you feel better I will fucking happily concede that Hitler's bloodlust is still undefeated in both unyieldingness and devotion.
Doesn't change jack shit about the definition of fascism or whether the soviets and maoists fit it, unfortunately for you.
Do you think David Katz is a “tankie”?
I have no idea who that is, nor do I care.
Ok, I lied, you got me curious, and you conveniently misspelled his name.
Because when looking up David Katz you find a highly distinguished history professor at Brandeis, but actually you linked one Dovid Katz whose academic background has fuckall to do with history since he's a fucking philologist.
So, do I think he's a tankie?
No, I don't think so.
Is his arguing against comparing the holocaust and other genocides at all relevant to this discussion?
Absolutely fucking not.
You call me scum equivalent to a nazi in response. Have words lost all meaning to you?
Let's see. You're arguing that the only aspect of fascism, an entire political movement whose impact is so strong and so damaging we are still feeling its effects a century later, that is worth addressing is the holocaust, instead of its far more consistently present, pervasive, and insidious characteristics of inevitably building a liberticidal, autocratic, centralist dictatorship whose morals change at the drop of a hat based entirely on the convenience of the political leadership of the regime.
You know, like every fascist regime, self-proclaimed or de-facto, other than Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy which also did the holocaust.
Plus you bring this up as if not committing the most deliberate and industrialised genocide in recorded history makes stalinists or maoists not genocidal. A silver medal is as good as sitting on the couch to you, isn't it?
Furthermore, I would argue you are doing so because you are trying to protect your sacred cows of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao from being rightfully identified as just another flavour of fascist, and not out of genuine interest in highlighting how bad the holocaust truly was.
If you cared about that you wouldn't need to downplay how horrendous other genocides are to single out the nazis, you can roundly condemn them and the soviets as genocidal without making an equivalence.
Being genocidal and being exceptionally genocidal both earn you a one way ticket to "shoot on sight" land in my book, debating which one is worse is thoroughly pointless from a moral standpoint and a red herring from a political science standpoint as being a fascist does not require a kill count (though it usually predicts a pretty fucking high one.)
So yeah words have meanings, and tankie means fascist scum dressed in red, as opposed to dressed in black or dressed in brown.