I would say that the country that has built 45,000km+ of high speed rail network, has a home ownership rate of 90%+, and has virtually eradicated extreme poverty within it's borders is objectively better than the country with one of the highest per-capita prison populations in the world, and ~600k homeless people it can't take care of.
The Cold War had only a brief pause before the pivot to Asia. The US tried to foment unrest in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last week.
We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.
Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.
The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.
Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.
Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).
Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.
Let me guess, Tiananmen square was a totally justified response to CIA instigated unrest too? How about you link to a single source from any reputable news agency anywhere around the world instead of random shady sites that totally aren't propaganda? And to be clear, fuck the US government too, but China isn't exactly a bastion of free expression and journalism either
How about you link to a single source from any reputable news agency anywhere around the world instead of random shady sites that totally aren’t propaganda?
Sorry, I don’t have any MBFC-approved sources for you on hand. I think you’d just ignore them or move the goalposts if I posted them anyway. I doubt you have an understanding of how our own propaganda works.
Oh hey look, guessed it in one. And note that I said anywhere in the world, but sure they're all cia psyops, that's a very reasonable take.
Have fun licking that boot, just because America is authoritarian doesn't mean you should trust what their opponents say about their own bad behavior, that's as ignorant as ignoring the crimes of the west
I'd think, for someone who loves China so much, you'd understand the value of a social score telling you that you're doing a bad thing. Guess you only like to listen when that score is managed by a fascist regime.
Ignorant? Do you imagine that we haven’t been exposed to exactly the same imperal core propaganda our entire lives as everyone else here? Generally speaking, we know everything that you know. The only difference is that we took the time & effort—and had the intellectual honesty—to learn more.
I feel “the only fascist regime is X” does a huge disservice to a lot of fascists around the world that are hard at work making everyone’s life crappier every single day.
And that’s without going into particulars about the identity of X.
I have never seen a "social credit score" system. People are more concerned about the household registration (hukou) system. What you refer to as the "social credit card" is actually the social security card. In China, there is a credit rating system called Zhima Credit (Sesame Credit). If you owe a lot of money to the bank, your credit rating will be blacklisted, restricting your ability to make high-end purchases.
It seems like you are very good at propaganda. Are there bad things in China? Yes, but Western media often focus their reports on what they consider taboo topics, creating a stereotypical image of China that makes Chinese people look strange. I believe Western media can't come up with other accusations, so they project their own wrongdoings onto China. Take the example of Xinjiang cotton: Chinese people can't even conceive of forced labor because we believe that human labor is more expensive than machines, which are faster and more efficient. However, the US had cotton slave plantations in the past, so you hype up this issue.
