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Exactly. I have a work Macbook Pro, which I honestly dislike, and my wife has an iPhone and iPad (iPad is for drawing because the Apple pencil is better than alternatives). My wife won't use an Apple computer because her games don't work (mostly Lost Ark, but also others), I won't use one because I much prefer Linux, and we don't want yet another streaming service.

So Apple gets a big "meh" from me. It's better than Windows for me, so I guess there's that, but I'm really not interested in an "ecosystem."

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