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MilitantVegan

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MilitantVegan ,

If you bang your knee every day, you might be so used to the pain eventually that it's like you don't feel it anymore.

Physically if you don't know what it feels like to not consume a damaging and inflammatory diet, it's easy to mistake feeling like shit all the time with normalcy. But it's not normal, it's killing you.

And emotionally if you only know what it's like to do something that causes so much trauma and suffering (both to the animals, and the people who do the slaughtering), you might be so used to a background noise of guilt that you're not even aware that you're carrying it. The only way to know the difference is to change and watch what happens in your mind when you stop running away from the violence you're complicit in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyGkvdvvuE

MilitantVegan OP ,

Why are the animal's choices never considered in this equation? Freedom is something the west places a high value on, but it's generally agreed that freedom should never go so far as to harm others, yet your "freedom" to choose what to eat is resulting in a horrifying sort of perpetual holocaust.

Why is your fleeting sensory pleasure (something that can be had just as easily from plants) more important than the entire lives and wellbeing of all the animals you paid to have killed?

MilitantVegan ,

I've read that vegans average fewer nutrient deficiencies than omnivores. People should be worrying more about getting enough whole-food fiber than they are about protein.

MilitantVegan ,

https://bitesizevegan.org/is-wool-vegan-is-it-humane/

MilitantVegan ,

Because it's rational to hate when people kill other living beings just to wear their skin. That's fucking bizarre and grotesque.

MilitantVegan ,

I've relied heavily on gore-tex style rain-proof outerwear for being outdoors in bad weather. Their breathability and water-resistance is miles ahead of dead animal skins.

MilitantVegan ,

Just because something is popular doesn't make it normal or right. Maybe you should try visiting a slaughterhouse some time.

MilitantVegan ,

Leather is not a byproduct. Virtually no one is raising cows just to be nice. It's a business, and no business is going to waste resources on unprofitable "assets". This means the cows are raised specifically for their skin (in the case of the leather industry), and they are killed while still young. The same is true for both the animal flesh and dairy industries - older cows are less profitable.

So to accurately compare it to humans, imagine a bunch of babies and young children being confined in cramped, unsanitary conditions, regularly getting abused, and then being slaughtered long before they ever had any opportunity to do anything with their lives - having only ever known suffering and abuse.

And you think there's anything normal about that?

MilitantVegan ,

Gore-tex is much better than animal skin for being both wind and water-proof, and better for breathability as well (and being much lighter weight). While the materials are bad environmentally, animal skin is not an environmentally friendly material either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQgcBUGD3g&pp=ygURdmVnYW4gbWljIGxlYXRoZXI%3D

MilitantVegan ,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQgcBUGD3g&pp=ygURdmVnYW4gbWljIGxlYXRoZXI%3D

MilitantVegan ,

This is not true.

https://bitesizevegan.org/is-leather-a-byproduct-of-the-meat-industry/

MilitantVegan ,

Oh it's you again, I didn't even realize in either of those cases. Well stop having bad takes about animals, and start doing right by them. They need you.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5ddcc0fe-2387-4f3c-b626-914d1a8950f6.jpeg

MilitantVegan ,

Exactly.

MilitantVegan ,

I used to commute on bike every day, regardless of weather in rain or harsh northern winter conditions. Waxed fabric is an interesting idea, and I might try soy wax on my shoes come to think of it. However in the past I had tried to use a rain poncho while biking and found that the flappiness rendered it completely useless in the rain.

Technically it's not gore-tex exactly, but I got a Columbia brand rain jacket that uses an equivalent technology. It is probably the best coat I've ever had for both rain and winter conditions (as long as I dress in layers), and even 6+ years later it is still entirely rainproof.

MilitantVegan ,

I have a reply to that comment nearly finished. Just had to break out a device with a real keyboard because it's lengthier.

MilitantVegan ,

Interesting, I'll have to look more into this.

MilitantVegan ,

The rational thing is to just leave the animals alone and not kill them.

MilitantVegan ,

Inaccurate. Everyone knows vegans prefer Debian.

MilitantVegan ,

Yes it has, get used to it.

MilitantVegan ,

No, here to tell you to go vegan. Your gluttony doesn't justify what's done to so many animals.

MilitantVegan ,

You should be wondering why your cholesterol is so high.

MilitantVegan ,

Does it make you feel strong and masculine to harm beings who are smaller and helpless against you?

MilitantVegan ,

And to add to all this, the company that maintains Brave is run by a well known anti-lgbtq bigot.

MilitantVegan ,

Except I sent an entire documentary that precisely addressed the substance of what you said. You claimed that no one is raping and torturing animals. The documentary shows plenty of evidence to the contrary.

MilitantVegan ,

Are you saying that you're vegan here?

MilitantVegan ,

There is science behind it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPE5q92JuWc&pp=ygUZd2h5IGRvIHBlb3BsZSBoYXRlIHZlZ2Fucw%3D%3D

MilitantVegan ,

I could get into the complexities of when and where maple syrup may be more or less harmful, but that's a bit of effort for a nested lemmy thread that's been downvoted so far as to not matter. Point is, in the context of western industrialized societies, the majority of people would see benefits from abstaining from refined sources of sweeteners, including maple. There might be some unique compounds in it, but when you look at the percentages of what's in the stuff, it's basically 98% just sugar.

Also I would suggest reading Marion Nestle's, Food Politics. It gives an inside view of the corruption in nutrition science. One of the things she said that stuck with me was when she said that she gets suspicious any time anyone is doing studies on a single food item.

MilitantVegan ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/73cf270e-b46d-4fb7-a1b0-e012d57dfeb2.png

MilitantVegan ,

I am just going to respond to all of your other messages here, because it's the same answer: it is not my job to educate you. YOU are the one who is continuing to live in a way that's morally repugnant. What you are doing is directly supporting a system that is routinely putting billions of lives through a real life hell - their entire existence is suffering - only to be butchered at the equivalent of an adolescent or juvenile age. What you are consuming is the traumatized remains of beings who were basically children, who were confined as part of a perpetual holocaust that's being conducted at an unprecedented scale. They committed no crimes. They are completely innocent. And you abuse them anyway, and mock the few people who try to undo this injustice.

That's not even getting into the devastating health effects of consuming animals, or the wanton destruction of the environment and greenhouse gas emissions that go with it.

Do you count yourself a leftist, or in any way oppose the fascist republicans? Well the animal ag industry is one of their primary sources of revenue, and meat and dairy consumption is central to the white nationalist identity. Non-vegan leftists are not leftists at all, because you can't even bring justice to your own dinner table, and you are directly paying the fascists every day.

It is YOUR job to get educated, and get right.

MilitantVegan ,

And? You've already demonstrated that you're a psychopath (and probably have heart disease and diabetes as well). Are you so weak that you need to murder defenseless animals to feel good about yourself? How about you take a screenshot of this exchange for posterity. Maybe someday if you ever have the benefit of a moment of clarity, you can look back at it and cringe at yourself.

Other than that, fuck off. Psychopath.

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