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masterspace ,

Oh, well THANK GOD, no human driver has ever been known to block traffic or hold up emergency vehicles!

What saints you all are for protecting the right of people to work thankless taxi jobs, and have the number one cause of preventable death be traffic fatalities. Nothing could be more noble than preserving the status quo!

masterspace ,

This is dumb as fuck. Human drivers are literally the number one cause of preventable fatalities.

masterspace ,

Lol, no they don't.

Do you know how many cab drivers execute illegal u-turns, park illegally, cut off cyclists, speed etc.? They literally never get caught or ticketed for anything unless they actually kill someone with their car.

masterspace ,

I saw a human driver get into a traffic accident because he was mad that the guy ahead of him gave someone space to turn out of a parking lot, they ended up arguing and their cars just sat there further blocking traffic for half an hour until the cops came.

Why are you acting like robot drivers are the only fallible ones?

masterspace , (edited )

The fact that a thing most people do and some for hours daily has a large effect shouldn’t be surprising

Oh wow, what good reasoning!

Let's all take up smoking cigarettes indoors all day, it's incredibly dangerous and is killing mass numbers of people on a literal daily basis, but that's fine because everyone's doing it, so the effect shouldn't be surprising, so that makes it ok and not worth addressing!

/s

masterspace ,

Humans are literally responsible for all preventable things in society.

Did I says "humans" or did I say "human drivers"? We're not talking about liquidating all humans, we're talking about replacing them at the task of driving.

Totally no other spots in society where machines have replaced formerly human done tasks to make work safer, what a crazy idea that is right! /s

masterspace ,

Oh please do go ahead and tell me how my 93 year old grandmother is going to bicycle home.

masterspace ,

and don't consider the population of the event, then you can make any event affecting a large population look like an urgent affair when it's not so urgent

How is this different from my cigarettes analogy? You're just arguing it's not a big deal that hundreds of people are dying on a daily basis, because a lot of people drive.

rushing for corporations to put their unsafe vehicles on the street should not be rushed

Fully agreed.

Human driven cars should be replaced with automation (or even better, automated public transportation) as soon as it's viable. It's not yet

Except that it is. Waymo already has a safer per mile rating than human drivers.

masterspace ,

So in your world, planes, trains, and buses pick you up and drop you off at your doorstop? How cute.

masterspace ,

This isn’t some noble act by a company to end meaningless, menial work. It’s a ploy by a company to cut those pesky “workers” out of the money.

I mean, yeah. That's why basically any corporation does anything, it's a core function of how capitalism is supposed to work and continue to enrich society. Should we have not invented computers because it shuttered 4/5 of the paper mills in my dad's home town?

There’s no backup plan for the people who rely on driving for money—more people than ever, by the way.

Yeah, but that's a problem with government safety nets and supports, not with a company engineering a new technology.

This is literally a profit boosting “evolution” in the continued unlivability crisis. This isn’t Star Trek. It’s seasons 3-4 of Mr. Robot.

I would argue that it's almost exactly Star Trek.

masterspace ,

I will never switch to iOS until they allow both sideloading and other browser engines.

I hate that I buy my phone from a shitty advertising company like Google but atleast they don't treat me like a child and let me use my universal turing machine universally.

masterspace ,

Again, you're not actually making an argument about meta doing anything to make the fediverse worse than it is, you're not even arguing that metas actions in those other situations are directly applicable and will happen here, you're just saying "look at these bad things that Meta did before, sure other bad things must happen".

That is the literal textbook definition of a FUD argument.

masterspace ,

Stop posting this unless you have an actual argument as to why it's not just FUD. This dumbass blogpost has been debunked over and over and over again.

Google Talk didn't kill XMPP.

XMPP didn't have a significant user base, Google Talk did, so while Google Talk supported XMPP, other open source XMPP clients got to ride their coattails and interact with a huge community and it felt like XMPP was thriving, when in reality Google Talk was what users cared about, not whether or not it connected to the rest of the minor XMPP networks, so when Google Talk decided to stop using XMPP, their users didn't care or switch and XMPP died.

But that's fundamentally not because Google killed it, it's because Google was the only thing keeping it alive.

masterspace ,

That's because developers making websites don't want to bother to test their thousands of lines of application code on a bunch of different browsers.... is your argument that Threads will join the fediverse and then people arent going to test whether their 150 characters of text will work with Lemmy before posting and then all us Lemmy user's are going to quit because it's simply too much for Lemmy to render 150 characters of text and maybe an image?

masterspace ,

an algorithm takes a selection of high ranking fb posts and cross-posts to Lemmy, far faster and more frequently than regular users. Oh, you'll need to login to read.

So what? The Lemmy meme communities make posts way faster and more frequently than any other communities. Did I solve that by demanding my instance admin not federate with those instances or communities? No, I just unsubscribed from them.

And if Threads send encrypted / locked posts to Lemmy that cant be read on Lemmy clients then you just defederate from them then.

threads could wholesale repost other users and their comments, but behind a threads login wall

So? How does Threads forcing their users to sign in make your experience using Lemmy any worse?

masterspace ,

Huh, if only there was an example of Meta existing on a decentralized platform where I could choose to visit them and interact with their stuff but I didn't have to.

Oh huh, would you look at that, turns out this little decentralized network called the worldwide web has been running it this whole time!

masterspace ,

I'm not going to bat for them, I'm just not spreading FUD and getting whipping myself into a panic over a non issue.

Again, I urge you to stop using FUD generalities like "they have the midas touch of poop, everything they touch turns to poopy", and present an actual grounded explanation of how federating with them will cause an actual problem.

masterspace ,

Honestly, lots of PC gaming fans are unhappy with Oculus focusing on the broad consumer market, but the Q2/Q3 are genuinely impressive pieces of hardware/software and are the first devices to actually meaningfully push VR even somewhat into the mainstream.

masterspace ,

And I don’t like meta as a company, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that many people do not want to provide any data whatsoever to them via threads etc.

Except that you're posting publicly and there is absolutely nothing that prevents Meta from scraping all of your lemmy activity as it is.

masterspace , (edited )

I thought your second point was ~ 'Lemmy instances shouldn't federate with meta because you don't want them getting your data', not, 'it doesn't matter whether or not we federate because they can scrape that data off Lemmy anyways'.

masterspace ,

Waving a pithy saying around in place of an actual argument, doesn't make it any less of a FUD argument. I mean can you even name 14 open source projects that facebook has destroyed? Or just 14 bad vibes you've gotten?

masterspace ,

Don't forget the less sexy stuff like watchman

masterspace ,

But in the scenario of lemmy / mastodon, you only ever interact with your chosen frontend / instance and it only communivates to facebook through activitypub not through the general web standards. Even if facebook were to just embed a bunch of js code as an activitypub text feed, your chosen instance would still have to choose whether or not to render it by default, or to give you the option, or to block it entirely.

masterspace ,

Anything can be art if there is intent and creativity involved, but people aren't upvoting because of artistic merit they're upvoting because they're dumb horny animals.

The suffering is inherent, and intentional to RULE system (lemmy.tf)

The Democracy of the founding fathers was Greek Democracy, predicated upon a slave society, and restricted to only the elite. This is the society we live in today, even with our reforms towards direct representation. The system is inherently biased towards the election of elites and against the representation of the masses....

masterspace ,

The only part of this statement that is flawed is the part that states that the only course of action is to dismantle the system. It is also possible to reform the system so that it doesn't produce It's previous flaws.

masterspace ,

Quite frankly, first of all, that's not the statement being discussed.

The statement in the meme is that if a system deprives people of something necessary for life it should be dismantled. Doesn't even mention capitalism.

A system that deprives people of what they need was say the healthcare system, but it was reformed to better provide people what they need instead of being dismantled. In the abstract, the idea that every broken system, or system producing a non-perfect outcome needs to be dismantled is one rooted in simple minded black and white thinking, instead of understanding the system at play.

If you want to make a separate argument that capitalism is a system that resists change and that it thus cannot be changed or reformed to produce the outcomes you want, then you can make that argument, but 'no one has done it yet' after a generation or two of half hearted trying, is not a convincing argument that it's an impossible task.

masterspace ,

It's absolutely insane how many people die every single day because we thought it was a good idea to let everyone operate multi-ton pieces of heavy machinery at hundreds of km per hour on the reg.

How the fuck is there more regular testing and training for people driving forklifts than Dodge Rams?

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