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theorangeninja

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openSUSE Tumbleweed vs openSUSE MicroOS

I recently came across openSUSE again and decided to give it a try this time. I am daily driving Fedora 40 right now and before coming across openSUSE I wanted to switch to Fedora Kinoite or uBlue Aurora (i.e., immutable / atomic). That's why MicroOS piqued my interest but I had a hard time find information if MicroOS is...

theorangeninja OP ,

Thank you.

In the MicroOS portal it is described like this:

Rolling Release: Every new openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshot also automatically produces a new openSUSE MicroOS release.

So it should get the latest software pretty fast too, right?

theorangeninja OP ,

Yes I already use the Fedora KDE Spin right now, it's awesome!

I didn't know that it uses X11 because Fedora uses Wayland already for a few major releases.

I think I found a solution for your problem recently. Are you familiar with distrobox? AFAIK you can use it on top of your OS, in this case Tumbleweed, and install another OS in a container, like Arch, and then export the programs installed from AUR or whatever to your host OS.

But nonetheless thank you, I think I should just try it out in a virtual machine or something.

theorangeninja OP ,

Thank you very much! I read about those. Maybe it's time to try out GNOME again, I don't want to use a too early version of an OS. Altough I fell in love with KDE, especially KRunner!

theorangeninja ,

There's also Netbird as an open source alternative to Tailscale. @damnthefilibuster

theorangeninja ,

How are you using Netbird in your setup if I may ask?

theorangeninja ,

What are ACLs? And do you use the self hosted or the hosted option?

theorangeninja ,

Thank you very much! Can you link to a noob-friendly guide for all the features Netbird offers?

what's your current linux distro?

wanting to hop into the world of linux on a dual boot method (one of my favorite games unfortunately cannot be run on linux at all, and it's a gacha. I don't want to gamble with my account being banned, so I'm keeping windows for it specifically.) this'll be my second go at it, I used Pop!_OS briefly but had some issues with...

theorangeninja ,

I recently stumbled upon OpenSuse again and want to try it out but can't decide if I should use Tumbleweed or MicroOS. Did you ever try MicroOS?

theorangeninja ,

I thought MicroOS is like Fedora Silverblue and an atomic desktop?

theorangeninja ,

Can you elaborate? I think I didn't understand your point.

theorangeninja OP ,

I'm not a developer so I can't really check myself

theorangeninja OP ,

They should provide an app for other distros then!

theorangeninja OP ,

Well I think you have to distinguish between a messenger and other programms, because a messenger has a lot of sensitive data.

theorangeninja OP ,

What is that if I may ask?

theorangeninja OP ,

AppImages run on nearly every distro. Why arw they not providing that instead of a .deb?

theorangeninja OP ,

This one? Because this is not official.

theorangeninja OP ,

Sounds like a hacky way to do things, I don't think I'm comfortable with that.

theorangeninja OP ,

Not everyone feels comfortable doing that.

theorangeninja OP ,

Appreciated, maybe I'll try it in the future.

theorangeninja OP ,

Not everyone is a developer and they closed issues on github so why bother?

theorangeninja OP ,

Which is not verified. I can do that with a screenshot tool but I'd like my messenger to be verified.

theorangeninja OP ,

rpm is less secure than deb?

theorangeninja OP ,

I will not bother because issues are closed and pull requests rejected left and right from signal for years.

theorangeninja OP ,

Fair

theorangeninja OP ,

No idea

theorangeninja OP ,

Signal aims to be the messenger you can tell your grandma to use. To live up to that promise they have to provide more packages.

theorangeninja ,

Also https://conduit.rs/

theorangeninja OP ,

We can hope for a fediverse alternative!

theorangeninja ,

Up for the username

theorangeninja ,

Are there any mobile apps for mbin yet? Last time I checked it was hard to find any.

theorangeninja ,

Too bad. I guess I'll have to wait a little longer to try it out then.

theorangeninja ,

How does Immich compare to something like PhotoPrism or Piwigo?

theorangeninja ,

This one right? Futo, Please don't attempt to create your own Open Source Definition

theorangeninja ,

Let's hope it stays like that!

theorangeninja ,

Thanks for the detailed writeup, I think I understood it properly now!

Crazy that you have to pay for PhotoPrism to have more users!

Maybe they add these features you want to Immich? Given that it's still in development.

theorangeninja ,

I guess at this point we have to take what we get.

theorangeninja ,

Yeah I wanted to selfhost photoprism soon but now I have to reconsider that.

theorangeninja ,

Photoview looks nice too, I might try that.

theorangeninja OP ,

Alright, I would like a NAS and (separated) a server with some small services (pi-hole or adguard, syncthing, jellyfin (getting the data from the NAS), and so on). I thought about running the small services with docker on a RPi 4 and the NAS on a refurbished business PC with SATA drives in the case (I checked ebay and there are mainboards with 4 SATA III connectors and PCI so I could even add more SATA connectors). In a second moment a backup server (maybe with borg) would be a good idea but I could also do manual backups with an external USB HDD for the time being. And I have a tight budget.

This describes what I'd like to do. Budget is low and I don't have a lot of hardware laying around. For the capacity I don't know yet but for sure 6tb to start with. I'd like to try RAID (heard a lot, never tried it yet) and another backup (maybe something for the future).

theorangeninja OP ,

Alright, I would like a NAS and (separated) a server with some small services (pi-hole or adguard, syncthing, jellyfin (getting the data from the NAS), and so on). I thought about running the small services with docker on a RPi 4 and the NAS on a refurbished business PC with SATA drives in the case (I checked ebay and there are mainboards with 4 SATA III connectors and PCI so I could even add more SATA connectors). In a second moment a backup server (maybe with borg) would be a good idea but I could also do manual backups with an external USB HDD for the time being. And I have a tight budget.

This is roughly what I want to to with my system. A synology sounds nice but they are pricey and I'm not learning so much so I'd go another route if possible.

Maybe it's best if I just hook up some USB drives to my Pi and get my hands dirty with that. If the performance is not too bad (like you said).

theorangeninja OP ,

I have a seagate external drive at home, do you know if that one can be opened too? But good to know, thanks.

I will consider it, do you think a refurbished business 1L client would work too?

theorangeninja OP ,

Sounds good, I will check how much that would cost and consider it. There are probably plenty of resources going over low power cpu right?
Thank you!

theorangeninja OP ,

Thank you very much! Can you elaborate on why m720/920 have a better extensibilty? And what would be a resonable data transfer rate for a DAS?

theorangeninja OP ,

Are you refering to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Intel_NUC_Haswell_(case_rear_panel).jpg#/media/File:Intel_NUC_Haswell_(case_rear_panel).jpg as a thin client?

theorangeninja OP ,

Yes, having friends who deal with hardware sounds very good.

I learned a lot from this post about small form factor pcs having different mainboards than towers so I might get a micro atx for my old tower to stay flexible for the future.

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