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abhibeckert , to Technology in Is there a term for being right and then your opposition getting taught a lesson proving you were right? EPA calls off cyber regulations for water sector.

The term you're looking for is "vindication".

redfox OP ,
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SnotFlickerman , to Technology in Is there a term for being right and then your opposition getting taught a lesson proving you were right? EPA calls off cyber regulations for water sector.
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They're Republicans. Reality doesn't matter, only Power and Party.

They'll gladly shoot themselves in the foot as long as it hurts poor people more.

Adalast ,

So what I'm hearing is that any cyber "vindication" should be targeted at the highest income communities in the states. Gotcha.

code , to Technology in Is there a term for being right and then your opposition getting taught a lesson proving you were right? EPA calls off cyber regulations for water sector.

Well i think its a little of both. Technically i think epa overstepped its authority, but CISA is the exact place it should come from. Ideally any agency like this would work with CISA who has the mandate. Its certainly complicated when you get into an agency “making law” and theres a case in front of the supreme court now that could disrupt all of that.

redfox OP ,
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That's a good point. There's law and then there's administrative policies.

I agree with the assertion that the mandate was probably more in CISAs realm.

In the end, it needed to happen. Maybe administrations will consider being less petty and just doing what everyone knows needs to be done. Ha ha. Right.

varsock , to Privacy in Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale Act, preventing data broker sales to government agencies, moves forward

A step in the right direction but until there are more robust privacy laws in place, this will not go away.

If their gov is restricted on buying from data brokers, are other governments, foreign entities?

The inherit issue is the American's data can be harvested and sold. Setting up legal restrictions toward certain entities will just cause those entities to "legally self identify" as another entity. Or do business with an entity that is allowed access to American's data.

HubertManne ,
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so much agree. Why do we even allow data brokers? How about something like an entitiy cannot collect information that is not necessary to conduct the business it is in and cannot sell or provide that information to any other entity outside of the one they collected the information from which must be provided free upon request.

varsock ,

wow 10 months flew by since this was posted and since then the United States had a surprise privacy bill that is bipartisan that sort of addresses the issues you and I mentioned. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/04/07/congress-privacy-deal-cantwell-rodgers/

This bill was proposed around the same time the TikTok ban was announced. I speculate that law makers had a difficult time framing the arguments against TikTok when "the data of citizens have no protections so there was no easy legal grounds to forbit the likes of TikTok to harvest it"

From what I've heard, this bill is pretty good. I need to educate myself more on it, however.

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