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Sorse ,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Never had a problem with KDE. Are you sure you aren’t using KDE 4.0?

chocosoldier OP ,

i've had problems with every version i've installed on every distro i've installed it on since the mid '00s when i started using linux

onlinepersona ,

Ah, a bleeding edge user who mistakes "nightly" with "stable.

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carotte ,
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  • realbadat ,

    That is not a KDE issue.

    Jumuta ,
    @Jumuta@sh.itjust.works avatar

    desktop edit mode is so fun though

    chocosoldier OP ,

    nice assumption. i'm a brokeass who typically runs hand-me-down hardware, stable all day.

    also that copyright license is hilarious, you know it's the neckbeard equivalent of posting "i do not consent to my data being collected" as your fb status right? or are you going to take a giant company to court for copying your nerd insult from lemmy?

    eldain ,

    I love how it works, I hate how careless they handle user data. I don't trust kdewallet because it forgot my wifi passwords multiple times, suddenly demanded a password for a passwordless wallet, or lost the wallet alltogether. I lost tons of old emails when kmail switched to akonadi storage instead of plain mail folders. And why did they change my desktop background after an update? Can't they just respect my settings and stuff a little bit -.-

    alsaaas ,
    @alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    It's the definition of "customization for customizations sake". It's ok if you like that, just not for me

    MicrondeMMMMMMM ,
    @MicrondeMMMMMMM@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    No I think KDE is the best de out there fight me.

    WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

    Same

    witty_username ,

    Yes, it's a little bit beautiful and a little bit overrated

    trevor ,

    KDE is buttery smooth (165Hz, no stutters ever) for me and kwin is a much nicer compositor than mutter.

    youpie ,
    @youpie@lemmy.emphisia.nl avatar

    I'm sorry, but KDE apps are literally the ugliest things on the planet.
    I really like how many features KDE has, but I just can't switch due to the looks

    stepan ,
    @stepan@lemmy.cafe avatar

    I like how the KDE apps look on the plasma desktop. I hate how they look everywhere else.

    737 ,

    qt allows for theming

    rumschlumpel ,

    Yeah, I never got into it; the look just doesn't work for me, even with theming.

    joojmachine ,

    it's something I've been pointing out for almost half a decade now, the main problem with KDE isn't any of the bugs, it's the lack of vision of what the project wants to be

    it ends up being a mix of windows with now GNOME's design due to it never being able to say no when people want "more features and more preferences"

    chocosoldier OP ,

    it's been the same buggy mess for as long as i've been using linux, always with the promise that the next update will take it from "neat tech demo" to "suitable permenant DE", i'm just really confused why it's the hot shit right now because my experience with the current release was literally identical to the first time i tried it way, way back on maverick meerkat. if i didn't know any better i'd say they changed the version number and nothing else.

    claire ,
    @claire@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Does that mean you're on Kubuntu? Which would mean you haven't even tried Plasma 6 yet right?

    Honestly Plasma is moving so fast it feels like the experience would unironically be better on something like Arch or Fedora where you get new updates almost instantaneously. Anyway, I'm on Fedora and Plasma is pretty stable for me, especially since Plasma 6. Some minor annoyances I encountered are also getting fixed in 6.1.

    iusearchbtw ,
    @iusearchbtw@lemm.ee avatar

    It wants to be feature rich, configurable, and flexible

    GNOME already has the Apple "we know better than you so it's our way or the highway" design strategy down to an art

    joojmachine ,

    it's a project with a cohesive idea of what it wants to build, to a certain extent they are perfectly right to stand with "their way or the highway"

    this isn't an apple thing, it's just that in the operating system market there isn't any other example of someone having a defined idea of what they want to build

    KDE tries to be all of those things, but trying to cast too wide of a net just gets you a mess of settings and unfortunately buggy experience overall

    small edit: I have a ton of respect for the KDE devs, I just realized I've been sounding too negative about them, I just don't like the end product

    iusearchbtw ,
    @iusearchbtw@lemm.ee avatar

    Counterpoint: KDE is literally the best to ever do it and none even compare

    chocosoldier OP ,

    do what? look good while it chokes on itself? because i'd say unity did that even better.

    iusearchbtw ,
    @iusearchbtw@lemm.ee avatar

    Be the most versatile and usable DE with the best applications

    Also works on my machine (14 year old thinkpad)

    Jumuta ,
    @Jumuta@sh.itjust.works avatar

    You're running a t410??

    that's amazing that it's still usable today after 14 years, gives me hope that I can keep my t430 running until a similarly good device appears on the market

    iusearchbtw ,
    @iusearchbtw@lemm.ee avatar

    A t420, but yes

    It's not my main machine but it is my only laptop, and sticking an extra 8gb of ram and an ssd in it was all it needed to become very responsive even for modern software. Unless you're playing video games or doing some heavyweight media editing projects, those older CPUs and GPUs can cope better than one might expect

    kaboom36 ,
    @kaboom36@ani.social avatar

    Eyy a fellow t420 user in the wild! There is the rare game that can be played on it, I once survived off of Minecraft and holocure when my desktop's motherboard decided "no" and it was my only machine until I could get a replacement

    chocosoldier OP ,

    versatile

    sure. idk about "the most", i haven't seen it do anything that other DMs can't do with some tinkering. hell just installing cairo-dock yields a very similar ui experience imo.

    usable

    i can't agree, my experience is things not staying where i put them, random crashes, layout and themes not "sticking" between logins, and occasionally the entire session crashing - all this from a fresh install on an untinkered-with system, and it's been a consistent experience through the years. maybe you're luckier than i am?

    best applications

    i never met an application i wanted to run that i couldn't because i had the wrong DE. what are you talking about?

    taanegl ,
    @taanegl@beehaw.org avatar

    6.1 promises to fix some of that jank. I'm a few changes away from switching over.

    chocosoldier OP ,

    been waiting over a decade, still janky. don't hold your breath.

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