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The transphobia stops now

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

pjb ,
@pjb@lemmy.spacestation14.com avatar

What the fuck, transphobia on 196?

Trans rights 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

UhBell ,
@UhBell@lemmy.world avatar

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thisbenzingring ,

I don't subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it's awesome that you're able to build this community.

I'm not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he'd still be here.

So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.

I know people in real life who have transitioned. It's a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one's own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.

Lightsong ,

Just wondering what does 196 means anyway? Clueless lemmy user here.

Ps I'm ally of LGBTQ2S+.

Mozingo ,
@Mozingo@lemmy.world avatar

Back on Reddit some dude and his roomates made a subreddit called r/195 (their dorm number). It only had one rule, when you visit, you have to post a meme. Eventually the public found the subreddit and started posting their own memes. It got huge and out of hand and some awful stuff started getting posted so they finally deleted the subreddit. That disappointed a bunch of people so a sequel was made, r/196. This community is a recreation of that second subreddit.

There1snospoon7491 ,

This should be in the sidebar so the lore isn’t lost.

HollowNaught ,
@HollowNaught@lemmy.world avatar

Human rights are human rights, no matter who you are

LargestDong ,

Ohhhh you are that crazy person that loves to censor the shit out of anyone who dares speak out against your insanity

BNE ,
@BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Brother, that's not how we talk to people. Everyone here is treated like people and respected for their personhood. This isn't a theatre for bigoted nonsense - there's other platforms available if you want to attack people and get that out of your system.

Show people respect or leave people alone - but don't be like that.

SCmSTR ,

She doesn't like to, she does it because queer people are constantly being attacked and berated and then when we get tired of the shit, people get surprised and go, "oh why are you being so defensive, you're overly reactive". And she isn't insane, she's proud, protective, and proactive with a very low tolerance for any indication of more bullshit.

Personally, I would discuss certain events more fully, try to educate and understand, but, for better or for worse, the person with responsibility for the instance and everybody in it decided less chances rather than more and doesn't give a flying fuck what anybody thinks, and the more you press her, the more she's gonna tyrant all over you, and, honestly, most of the users here have her back because she's got ours.

Just... Be better to people, let others walk away from you if they want without YOU being a crazy person and being sensitive, reactive, and lashing out unnecessarily. You ever think about that perspective? You don't have to say anything, just move along and leave us in peace. Maybe once everything cools down in the future, she'll renegotiate and reanalyze and possibly consider reconnecting. Y'all can defed from us crazy folk if you want at that time. You're free to walk away too.

QualisArtifexPereo ,

Joining most of the people here in saying, "Huh, what community?" I'm not against trans people, and I despise bigots, but I'm not a part of your community either.

To be honest I don't care to be part of any federated community that defines itself by what it won't tolerate, grow up and use the block feature.

Doug ,

grow up and use the block feature.

I'm really sick of this talking point. If history hasn't demonstrated to you that ignoring a problem doesn't resolve the problem then you take ought to go back and read some more.

If you can't stand to be bothered by others trying to carve out consideration for your fellow humans then I'm glad this may be our only interaction.

Darthjaffacake ,

I'll be honest I think alienating people feeling in the middle is a bad idea, making an echo chainber is ehat those other websites are for, and people on the middle ground are the ones whose beliefs matter the most as they they are the only ones that will change things.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

There shouldnt be any middle ground on the statement "trans rights are human rights". If you think there's room for compromise on the oppression of marginalized groups then you're either a lost cause or willfully ignorant of the world around you. People that are in a safe space, specifically dedicated to them and people like them, have no obligation to educate or entertain disingenuous "discourse" about whether or not they should be allowed to exist.

Darthjaffacake ,

That's not what I'm talking about and yeah there's no middle ground on the fact trans people should have human rights. I'm not sure how to put this into words but pretty much if you live in a place where you can't see trans people around you (as in trans people not being allowed to be free and safe in public) it's hard for people to just get a grasp on "this person exists and is trans and is a person" thats the big milestone. Getting people recognised as people. A while before i dated her i didn't understand how to feel comfortable with the idea (much of it was through fun memes supporting trans stuff in non-toxic ways). But my point is that showing that trans people exist and are normal is really important for the world right now, we need the people in the middle ground to know that your rights are being violated and something needs to be done because the middle does change that vote the most.

MaryTzu ,

Trans women are women. Girldick is best dick.

Know that you are loved. ^And also sexually objectified. Sorry bout that... ^

-Sincerely a cis lesbian.

Velociraptor ,
@Velociraptor@beehaw.org avatar

Can you explain the girldick thing? I'm a transman and that comes off as one of the many things that are low key alienating in expressions of support, but it's possible I'm just mistaken.

MaryTzu ,

The original reference (which triggered the OP to post) is a cis man saying he wouldn't sleep with a pre op trans woman.

He said something along the lines that girldick is disgusting, I'm saying it's hot.

If that's problematic I can delete (not sure how that works on lemmy though). I would rather hear it from a trans woman though. If you want to discuss, go for it.

Velociraptor ,
@Velociraptor@beehaw.org avatar

Maybe using a cis bigot's words isn't the best way to show trans support. Hurts that you'd rather hear it from a trans woman. I guess this place just isn't for me or people like me. It happens. Pretty depressing though.

ada OP ,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

FYI, the person that you're talking about, is not the reason I made this post, nor were they talking about trans women or girldick.

This whole line of discussion is based on a misunderstanding of the original context I think

Lionir ,
@Lionir@beehaw.org avatar

Sad to hear that's been happening on Blahaj. Full and unambiguous support from me! 🐝

ada OP ,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It hasn't been happening on Blahaj as such. The transphobes come from other instances, but have been posting their BS here

Lionir ,
@Lionir@beehaw.org avatar

Right, that's what I imagined. If there's anything I can help with or if you just want to vent, feel free to DM at any time on Matrix

CYCLR ,

Personally, I don't think about other people's sexuality all that much, so I guess that makes me a non-aggressive supporter.

It's weird to impose this type of stuff, but I respect that this is your little space on the internet, so I'm leaving, as you asked. Thank you for the smiles and laughs.

ssfckdt ,
@ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud avatar

trans is not a sexuality

1stTime4MeInMCU ,

“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's greatest stumbling block in his strike toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku
Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to
'order' than to justice.'

Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Not to equivocate trans and black liberation because they are very different, but do you think “aggressive” or “non aggressive” supporter of race rights better slots into the whites who demonstrated their unwillingness to go along with racism or the ones who were like “I don’t care about your race, I’m not a racist, but how dare you ask me to support you in any meaningful or visible way?”

CYCLR ,

Good point! I do think it's important to support trans rights, but I'd be a hypocrite if I said I AGGRESSIVELY support the cause. There's just a lot going on in my life right now, I just want to keep a clear mind, is all.

That being said, I never agree with or accept signs of transphobia.

ada OP ,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What I mean by aggressively is, without caveats, without "but..."'s, without ambiguity. Your support needs to be clearly on the support side.

You don't need to be an activist. You don't need to be out marching or even commenting on trans stuff, but your opinion on trans folks should be unambiguously on the "support" side of things.

CYCLR ,

Oh, that's a much better description. I think I'll stay for longer then, thank you!

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