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The transphobia stops now

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

HollowNaught ,
@HollowNaught@lemmy.world avatar

Human rights are human rights, no matter who you are

THEMASTERMIND ,

Agreed no transphobia

LargestDong ,

Ohhhh you are that crazy person that loves to censor the shit out of anyone who dares speak out against your insanity

BNE ,
@BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Brother, that's not how we talk to people. Everyone here is treated like people and respected for their personhood. This isn't a theatre for bigoted nonsense - there's other platforms available if you want to attack people and get that out of your system.

Show people respect or leave people alone - but don't be like that.

SCmSTR ,

She doesn't like to, she does it because queer people are constantly being attacked and berated and then when we get tired of the shit, people get surprised and go, "oh why are you being so defensive, you're overly reactive". And she isn't insane, she's proud, protective, and proactive with a very low tolerance for any indication of more bullshit.

Personally, I would discuss certain events more fully, try to educate and understand, but, for better or for worse, the person with responsibility for the instance and everybody in it decided less chances rather than more and doesn't give a flying fuck what anybody thinks, and the more you press her, the more she's gonna tyrant all over you, and, honestly, most of the users here have her back because she's got ours.

Just... Be better to people, let others walk away from you if they want without YOU being a crazy person and being sensitive, reactive, and lashing out unnecessarily. You ever think about that perspective? You don't have to say anything, just move along and leave us in peace. Maybe once everything cools down in the future, she'll renegotiate and reanalyze and possibly consider reconnecting. Y'all can defed from us crazy folk if you want at that time. You're free to walk away too.

HerbalGamer ,

Somewhat relevantly, I've long since wondered what even is the use of a patriarchy if men still can't wear skirts and nail polish.

cmat273 ,

Hi! Trans person here. Your heart is in the right place, but this post is poorly written. You haven't even given examples of how this is currently/could be applied. Some people are just that uneducated about trans people. If they're leading questions that invalidate us, sure. But otherwise what's the harm? For 196 there's no reason to ask about that stuff but the whole instance?? Your call in the end but I can think of a few ways this could go bad just from prior experience in other communities.

agent_flounder ,

Trans people are regular, real people. Like my college friend. Or my wife's HS friend. Or that one kind soul I worked with once.

I'm so god damn sick of all the hatred and lies and bullshit and murder and sadistic laws against trans people.

I loudly applaud any space that actively supports trans people and gives them a place free from hatred and assholes.

EremesZorn ,

The fact that they need a space away from everyone else, and the fact that this post even had to be made, is a testament to mankind's inhumanity to man. People are people, but there's an unsettling amount of people that can't see past creed, color, sexuality, and so on.
I'd say it's a monument to our own hubris as well. We're the most advanced civilization that we know exists, but still can't seem to treat members of our own society right.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Remember; not supporting trans rights means you're on the same side as those using laws and judges to strip women of their autonomy around the world. <3

QualisArtifexPereo ,

Joining most of the people here in saying, "Huh, what community?" I'm not against trans people, and I despise bigots, but I'm not a part of your community either.

To be honest I don't care to be part of any federated community that defines itself by what it won't tolerate, grow up and use the block feature.

Doug ,

grow up and use the block feature.

I'm really sick of this talking point. If history hasn't demonstrated to you that ignoring a problem doesn't resolve the problem then you take ought to go back and read some more.

If you can't stand to be bothered by others trying to carve out consideration for your fellow humans then I'm glad this may be our only interaction.

Nyla_Smokeyface ,
@Nyla_Smokeyface@beehaw.org avatar

It's comforting to know that this community is intolerant of transphobia

Holzkohlen ,

Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.

Darthjaffacake ,

I'll be honest I think alienating people feeling in the middle is a bad idea, making an echo chainber is ehat those other websites are for, and people on the middle ground are the ones whose beliefs matter the most as they they are the only ones that will change things.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

There shouldnt be any middle ground on the statement "trans rights are human rights". If you think there's room for compromise on the oppression of marginalized groups then you're either a lost cause or willfully ignorant of the world around you. People that are in a safe space, specifically dedicated to them and people like them, have no obligation to educate or entertain disingenuous "discourse" about whether or not they should be allowed to exist.

Darthjaffacake ,

That's not what I'm talking about and yeah there's no middle ground on the fact trans people should have human rights. I'm not sure how to put this into words but pretty much if you live in a place where you can't see trans people around you (as in trans people not being allowed to be free and safe in public) it's hard for people to just get a grasp on "this person exists and is trans and is a person" thats the big milestone. Getting people recognised as people. A while before i dated her i didn't understand how to feel comfortable with the idea (much of it was through fun memes supporting trans stuff in non-toxic ways). But my point is that showing that trans people exist and are normal is really important for the world right now, we need the people in the middle ground to know that your rights are being violated and something needs to be done because the middle does change that vote the most.

RavenFellBlade ,
@RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world avatar

Trans rights are women's rights.

Trans rights are men's rights.

Trans rights are human rights.

If you believe otherwise, you're doing nothing less than questioning the basic humanity of Trans people. And you can fuck right off.

tonnert ,

Go go go. I’m so sick and tired of the hatred, the ignorance and frankly speaking, the stupidness.

I’m from a culture that is not very forgiving and tolerant, even though on the tin it says we are.

And it took me years to see and understand it. Now that I’ve conquered that ignorance, hell no we are not going to regress!!

EremesZorn ,

I'm here because 196 shows up on my feed and I really enjoy the memes.
I also have absolutely no problem with trans individuals or really any lifestyle anyone wants to live that isn't hurting anyone else.
That said, was there an incident recently on here that spurred the creation of this post? Did something go down?
Edit: Changed "bothering" to "hurting" because I frankly don't give a fuck about the feelings of the type of people that are "bothered" by LGBT+.

LeylaaLovee ,

Someone made a comment saying that they'd be down to fuck a trans man if they hadn't transitioned yet because he likes women. It was controversial, but then one of the mods here decided to post a screenshot of that comment on the main, and the people in the comments were fucking horrendous. It's all "I'm an ally, but..." statements. Some of them were fine, but even the best ones were just people taking the opportunity to say that they don't wanna fuck trans people. And that's fine, you don't have to be attracted to trans people at all, but a trans safe space isn't the spot for that discussion at all.

The mod shouldn't have posted what's essentially bait, nor should they have not actually moderated the thread after posting the bait. I'm pretty sure the instance admin ended up having to handle it. The guy who made the original comment is saying it was him, but that's not really what matters. This controversy was more about properly moderating the space than anything.

Arystique ,
@Arystique@beehaw.org avatar

Heck yeah! Fuck Transphobia!

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