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vzq , in Beehaw.org admin removes comments he doesn't like

You are a sad fediverse user.

stanka , in Hypothesis: Insufficient moderation tools lead to instance protectionism, which leads to a decline in the overall discussion quality on Lemmy

I escaped ads and a dictatorship only to come here and be told how great communism is with an even greater frequency.

Blocking hexbear communities just led to those users going to other instances and making the whack-a-mole more difficult.

Hexadecimalkink ,

That's a bit of paranoia to think people from Hexbear are out to spread their evil ideas to polute your mind any way they can..

maegul , in Idea: fediverse of ecommerce. Time to dethrone amazon and ebay. What do you think?
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

ActivityPub (the protocol used by the fediverse) has recently had a proposal to expand it incorporate marketplace exchanges of information. See the proposal, and a discussion thread

Ferminho OP ,

Looks good. While it looks more oriented towards a second-hand marketplace, its concepts can be extended to include business-to-consumer interactions as well. A mix of these systems could enhance the marketplace ecosystem's versatility and usefulness. Thanks for sharing the proposal

silverpill ,
@silverpill@mitra.social avatar

@Ferminho @maegul This proposal describes a very simple marketplace, and some things were intentionally left out. However, it is based on Valueflows system which can be used to describe many different economic processes, including planning, production and transportation:

https://www.valueflo.ws/introduction/core/

So developers may use object types and properties defined there if they want to build something more complicated. And social interactions can be represented as standard ActivityPub activities. I think Valueflows and ActivityPub nicely complement each other.

hazeebabee , in You can be banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone for calling out transphobia

I think the issue was more about forcing intense discourse on people who aren't interested in having that conversation at that moment.

You werent banned for calling out transphobia, you were banned because you were being pedantic and argumentative. Plus you were on a new account so everything all together made it look like you were trolling.

I think if you had stopped after one or two comments it would be fine. My rule is generally to point out something if I feel it needs to be said, then maybe give one more clarifying response, then let it go.

Another choice would be to make a separate post somewhere discussing the neuances of 'disliking politics' -- then people who comment on it clearly want to have that discussion and are opting in.

It seems like the situation triggered you, and sometimes the most productive choice is to step back from the conversation and move on.

Sorry you got banned, i hope you find a new comfy home on lemmy!

Danterious ,

I just wanted to thank you for giving actionable advice to them and having a pleasant tone.

hazeebabee ,

Of course :) might as well try and be helpful

SmokinStalin , in You can be banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone for calling out transphobia
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This behavior is why hexbear has defeated from blahaj.

DroneRights OP ,

I heard it was just a moderator on 196 that the admin removed after they were transphobic. Am I misinformed?

jack ,

Were they removed? Because the issue was that Ada was tolerating their transphobia because the community was big.

hypelightfly ,

The moderator in question is trans Ada never told them to stop being transphobic. Hexbear users just can't stop lying and making up bullshit drama can you?

DroneRights OP ,

You're right, the issue was ableism. I'm all frazzled from talking about transphobia and couldn't remember the hexbear drama very well because it wasn't interesting to me until the transphobia stuff I experienced

hypelightfly ,

So uninteresting that your supposed transphobia happened in a thread dedicated to the drama? You're lies are showing, you're not a very good troll.

poVoq , in GitLab plans support for ActivityPub
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On a side note: Gitea/Forgejo are also working on this and will probably get there first. Interoperability with Gitlab would be nice for sure.

0x1C3B00DA , in GitLab plans support for ActivityPub
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This is exciting. I think code forges are one of the biggest opportunities for ActivityPub to really go mainstream and change the internet. Not only because it'll make working with open source way easier since you can work with any compatible forge, but developers will be more exposed to ActivityPub just by working with the software and so more likely to participate in AP dev. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on the fediverse. There's been a lot of talk from various organizations/companies but this will be the first large project adopting AP. I'm interested to see how development goes for them and for other fediverse projects.

I wonder what changes it will force on Mastodon. Masto won't be the biggest project anymore and won't be able to throw its weight around as much. Just like the recent influx of users forced the implementation of full text search and has reenergized conversations about quote posts, I think federated gitlab would force masto to rethink some things.

miniu ,
@miniu@beehaw.org avatar

Didn't think of it this way. It would be cool if we weren't stuck with microsoft github for coding social network.

Cube6392 ,
@Cube6392@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah I've been trying to find good alternatives to github for "where open source should happen" because at it stands a ton of it happens on a single node owned by a single entity. My first instinct was gitlab since its big and open source, but you can't really do discovery with it like you can github, and you need to be logged in to do discovery at all. I landed on Codeberg as being the best for an open source future, and them with Forgejo, Gitea, and Gitlab are all implementing ActivityPub now. This is great news. Mastodon users could hypothetically create and comment on issues without creating forge accounts. People with self hosted forges can do some work and open pull requests. Major win, I think

rusticus , in There is a drop in monthly active Lemmy users (from 65k to 57k)

I can tell you the drop in active Lemmy users was NOT from hexbear and lemmy.grad. Those trolls are worse than the_donald was on the other platform.

thoro ,

Might as well say Beetlejuice three times

UnicodeHamSic ,

If it helps almost none of us are trolling

deadsuperhero Mod , in Should we decide to have a main fediverse community or should we keep posting everything twice?
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Hey, I'm the guy who started the .ml fediverse community. I started it with the Lemmy part of the network was young, and there weren't many instances yet. It's become a very active community, and I'm constantly amazed to see how much faster things move these days.

This has kind of been an ongoing conversation in some prior feature request discussions for Lemmy. One idea is that communities could consensually relay posts from one together, effectively creating a group containing Group Actors. This would probably cut down on duplicate content, but could create a larger surface vector for spam. But, I think it's an interesting idea.

I don't really have a full idea of what the best solution is. A Fediverse-specific instance similar to socialhub.activitypub.rocks could be a really interesting experiment, in that it would try to serve as a "Neutral Zone" between instances while sharing all kinds of news.

In the end, I don't really have much of a horse in this race. I think cutting down on duplication and redundant communities in favor of a more active shared space would probably have a lot of benefits, there's always going to be independent communities dedicated to the same theme on some far-off server. I'm not really interested in preventing anybody from starting their own.

queermunist , in Sibling communities: A middle way
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Redundancy has been so important recently with the DDoS attacks, and even as that subsides it's still definitely an important infrastructural perk that federation offers. It'd be a shame to lose that to centralization.

fresh OP ,

I agree. Do you feel this proposal doesn't address that? My hope is that sibling communities would allow us to keep redundancy and diversity while still enjoying some of the benefits of sometimes coming together.

dbilitated ,
@dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

it would be good to have some kind of linking.

my feed is usually ten copies of the same thing posted to similar communities on different servers

kitonthenet , in Has anyone defederated your instance? Introducing Defederation Investigator

You should probably cache results so users aren’tspamming other instances

BlameThePeacock , in Looking for a free speech instance

If you think hate speech is acceptable, you may want to stop and reassess your life. You dun fucked up.

Try building a life that doesn't revolve around worrying about other people do that doesn't affect you, it's far healthier.

rist097 OP ,

Thank you for taking your time to reply, but you misunderstood my question.

BlameThePeacock ,

I didn't misunderstand your question, I ignored answering your question and instead gave advice to a person who would ask such a question.

You will die an unhappy person if you make hating other people a priority in your life.

fustigation769curtain ,

Let me guess, calling a trans woman male is considered 'hate speech' in your mind?

BlameThePeacock ,

A) This thread is 8 months old, what the hell are you doing going through stuff this old. Get a life.

B) If you do it intentionally, knowing that they don't want it, you're a bad person. It's not hate speech though based on the legal description in Canada. Just like I can call you a thin-skinned small-dicked asshole and it's not hate speech.

fustigation769curtain , (edited )

It’s not hate speech though based on the legal description in Canada.

I never mentioned canada or any laws. Do you think it should be considered hate speech?

BlameThePeacock ,

I'm a Canadian, so the only hate speech laws that I care about are the ones for my country.

No I do not think intentional misgendering should be considered hate speech (in the legal sense)

I would absolutely fire an employee of mine for doing it though, even if I found out they did it outside of a work context.

Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences for it.

Awoo , in This still baffles me, but I guess it's good for federation?

Holy fucking shit they're blocking piracy? What a bunch of losers. Get off the anti-corporate platform built on copyleft principles if you have a problem with piracy.

OtakuAltair ,
@OtakuAltair@lemm.ee avatar

Eh? It's understandable. They shouldn't be forced to deal with any legal issues that come with it.

You can just use another instance that fits your needs, isn't that the whole point of this decentralized model?

Awoo ,

There are no legal issues. You can fucking talk about piracy completely legally. This is a moral position being taken under the excuse of legality by liberals who run their server with a strict political leaning, as demonstrated by their mass banning of socialists and defederation from every left wing space.

silvercove , in This still baffles me, but I guess it's good for federation?

Also lemmy.world is not the most stable instance and experiences a lot of downtime. My user experience got a lot better after I moved out of lemmy.world.

givesomefucks ,

It experiences a lot of downtime because the alt right kids who got defederated keep using 4chans ddos tool to bring it down...

It's not going down from normal user load.

TragicNotCute ,
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

If only people knew how hard the staff was working to improve things and keep it up.

gabe , in How to Move Your Instagram Feed to Pixelfed, the Photo App That Doesn't Track Your Every Move
@gabe@literature.cafe avatar

Damn the fediverse is really having it's moment. I guess even non-techie people really are truly getting fed up with corporate social media.

otter ,
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

Someone asked this before, but is there a Canadian instance for pixelfed? That's what's kept me from trying it out.

I see that pixelfed.ca is registered, but doesn't seem to go anywhere.

Otherwise is there another good instance to make an account on?

HughJanus ,

I mean we're still a long long way from reaching mainstream status.

gabe ,
@gabe@literature.cafe avatar

I think lemmy and it's growth is the biggest step forward in the direction of the fediverse becoming "mainstream" alongside twitters implosion
As this platform specifically develops more and the front end UI improves in spite of its current flaws, I feel like lemmy and kbin are probably the most likely to be picked up by the general public as it is the easiest to navigate and populate with content. You can federate whole communities in with tons of content, instead of just individual users. There are quirks but I think it has the most potential, it's like the fediverse was made for this kind of platform in mind specifically.

HughJanus ,

Mastodon currently comprises about 90% of Fediverse users so I'll have to disagree on that one.

Black_Gulaman ,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not everything needs to be mainstream to be great. Sometimes being less known is what makes sites great since you are sure that the user base that is on there are there because of similar reason. Unlike mainstream apps where users trend to be there only because it is hip to be there but don't care for what the sites actually stands for. Hence the proliferation of garbage material in large mainstream sites.

habanhero ,

My personal observation is that people have been fed up for quite a while, not so much by the Instagram app itself but by Meta's brand, their untrustworthiness and the general vapid and scammy nature of the hordes of Influencers and "hustlers". It's just regular folks aren't aware of decent alternatives or the alternatives aren't quite there yet.

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