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drillur , in Introducing Incremental Social, a community for both players and developers of incremental games!
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I'm so proud! This is very cool!

admin , in What to know about Threads
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(... in 2023)

tecnoterrestre , in fediverse platform for a schools community network
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It depends. what purpose should this platform serve? What functions/features are you looking for? If all you're looking for is a light(er)-weight microblog fedi platform, maybe gotosocial.

Perhaps a schools network may benefit from an ActivityPub platform that not only allows social posting, but also includes features like cloud storage, and integrated groups (public, private, moderated) among other relevant features. I suggest taking a peek at streams.

geoma OP ,

Will check out streams. Is it lightweight? I wonder if gotosocial is a good choice for a multiple account instance, as AFAIK it is meant for single user ones

tecnoterrestre ,
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I previously ran a small streams instance on an older 32-bit laptop at home for a couple people. It ran fine. It can also run on shared web-hosting platforms. So I'd certainly say it's lightweight. Though, of course, it all depends on how much usage it will get (number of people, how active they are, how many contacts on other instances, etc). It can use either MySQL or PostgreSQL for db.

As for GoToSocial, you're right, looks like it's intended for no more than a small number of people.

So how many folks are you intending on hosting at this instance?

geoma OP ,

I have no idea how many people will end up using it. If we get lucky, we probably could even get to a number of 500 or so in some years... Hopefully...

veeesix , in fediverse platform for a schools community network
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Semi-related but I was thinking about this earlier this year, and I was wondering about the feasibility of posting bus cancellations via the fediverse instead of via a bussing company’s website or email.

otter ,
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I think updates like that would do well on Mastodon, it's the most popular right now so it has a wider reach / support. Similar to what would have been posted to Twitter before

WanderingVentra ,

It definitely seems like a good idea for education services, weather services, local municipal services, and basically all important government institutions to make important announcements and updates via a service they can host themselves or is more distributed, instead of via Twitter where they have to obey the whims of people like Musk.

poVoq , in fediverse platform for a schools community network
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I think once groups land in Pixelfed and the new app is released on the official app-stores, which will hopefully both happen this month, it is probably the best option if people are used to IG and Facebook.

otter ,
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Oh I didn't know there was a new app coming out, is the original one being rebuilt?

poVoq ,
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According to the main developer's mastodon feed, yes.

geoma OP ,

I wonder if pixelfed is resource hungry? As mastodon?

poVoq ,
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It's written in php Laravel, so it should be somewhat more lightweight than Mastodon, but not massively so.

Mastodon also has a bit of an unjustified bad reputation for that... yes for very small instances it is a resource hog, but it scales reasonably well to larger number of users after that initial bump.

sabreW4K3 , in fediverse platform for a schools community network
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Frendica

geoma OP ,

Is friendica appealing for teenagers? does the UX feel modern/polished? (this is non relevant for me, but sadly for teens it is so important)

Psych ,

Wait you know teenagers who use Facebook ?

geoma OP ,

not really

Psych ,

You wrote in your post the people you wanted to introduce it to is using Instagram and Facebook and now you said here those people are teenagers .

geoma OP ,

some adults still use fb. I doubt there are students that use fb. they mostly use ig.

sabreW4K3 ,
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It's because you mentioned Facebook, I thought Friendica would be a good like for like.

geoma OP ,

Ah ok I see... Yes, some adults still use fb but most people use IG...

dameoutlaw , in Federated Blogging Platforms
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So weird that no one mentioned https://micro.blog/
Which only after Mastodon was the second platform to adopt ActivityPub.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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I can't find anything regarding self-hosting this

strypey , in An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.
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@yogthos
> An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

The loops.video announcement by @dansup is here;

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112569573022384441

Hexadecimalkink , in An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

strypey ,
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@Hexadecimalkink
> Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

If this is the PeerFed you meant, I'm guessing the answer to both these questions is 'no';

"This paper has been archived and no longer reflects the author's current thinking."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper

Although I do find this concept intriguing;

"The system consists of two convertible assets, interest-bearing cash and a paid-in-kind perpetual bond."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper/blob/main/peerfed.pdf

@yogthos

notnotmike , in An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.
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I have concerns about the success of this platform. I am convinced what makes TikTok great isn't necessarily the algorithm (its good, no doubt) but the volume of content. There are so many users producing content that the amount of content you find enjoyable is always more than you could scroll through in a day.

A platform like this will be boring pretty fast when you scroll through the 100 new videos uploaded that day in an single hour, and you skip many of them. It's tough to generate enough content without enough users, and most of the content will likely just be aggregated from the other short-form sites. Of course that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's a more privacy-friendly way to browse that content, which is a plus.

Also, not particularly a fan of more brain-rotting short form content. It's crazy how addictive it is and I'm wanting less, not more. But if I had to choose a "shorts" platform I'd sure like a federated, free one to be the one to succeed. But it's got a long way to go

muntedcrocodile ,

I recon bots that are scraping other platforms content might be a way to get things going. What we need to be doing across all federated media is make it profitable for all the content creators to post to federated media as well as mainstream bs. Perhaps we need a standardised donations model I would recommend monero as the currency totally anonymous proven to be a relatively stable currency, and its easy for anyone to implement without all the bureaucratic bs.

NuclearDolphin ,

Would be nice if it would pull short vids from PeerTube or other fedi platforms.

Never really used tiktok, partially because I don't get addicted to video like I do reading text. Video is too slow for my ADHD brain, and you can't choose your content beforehand.

But I'd still pick up this platform to help it get traction.

Sean ,
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@notnotmike @yogthos the addictive characteristic of Tiktok isn't about a massive amount of quality, but quantity hidden among mid quality content. Just all grade-A content wouldn't set off the dopamine that getting dud, after dud, after dud, jackpot, dud again, dud, dud, dud, dud, maybe jackpot no, dud, dud, dud... is a clear path to dopamine

Much like a slot machine, the algorithm can intersperse jackpot and near jackpot amongst mostly dud content that makes it very addictive.

JoYo , in IFTAS Launches Moderator Resource Portal
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hopefully this doesn’t become itself a platform for brigades as all the others have.

deadlyremote , in dansup: "An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok …" - Mastodon
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Nice! Excited to see what this looks like

Ziggurat , in dansup: "An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok …" - Mastodon

As much as I find the idea great. The killer feature of TikTok is how easy it is to publish a video with filters and musics. Not sure how well a federated application can follow.
Then, there is TikTok algorithm which is a common critic of the app but is how you get a never-ending flow of content which isn't uninteresting enough for you to turn the app off

0x1C3B00DA ,
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Then, there is TikTok algorithm which is a common critic of the app but is how you get a never-ending flow of content which isn't uninteresting enough for you to turn the app off

I think there needs to be some kind of discovery algorithm for new users with an empty feed (or even existing users who just wanna find something new) but a federated alternative doesn't need something as powerful as the tiktok algorithm to be a decent replacement. It doesn't need to surface a "never-ending flow of content" because it doesn't have a financial incentive to keep you in the app endlessly.

GravitySpoiled , in dansup: "An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok …" - Mastodon

Wow!

I hope it's like peertube that people can share bandwidth?

poVoq ,
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Since Pixelfed already supports that, I would assume yes.

palordrolap , in Federated Blogging Platforms

There's also a Fediverse plugin for WordPress if you already have a host. Caveat: I have only seen it on Fediverse directories. No idea whether it's any good.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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I hear all this talk about WordPress, but at the same time, they're selling users' content to AI, so I don't want to continue to use them.

LunarLoony ,
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Is there a source for this? I have a WordPress blog but been tempted to switch to a different platform due to bloat.

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LunarLoony ,
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Thanks. Looks like it's only affecting Wordpress.com for now. We'll see if it trickles down to .org too

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