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What is your experience with loxone? What is it worth to integrate with it?

We are moving to a new house, and I want to build a foundation in something more reliable as homeassistant and zigbee. I looked at KNX and it is ridiculously expensive (170 euros for a pir sensor is a joke). So as an alternative I'm looking at loxone, which seems to be a cheaper alternative to KNX. Do you have experience with it? How good is it? What kind of things are worth automating with loxone? They have a lot of solutions, but I'm not sure if they are all worth it. I am already sold about the lights, but what about multi room audio? Light, motion, temperature sensors?

Any experience/testimonials are welcome

philpo ,

Loxone is not worth it lately.
Their device quality has gone down, integration of other services is intentionally made difficult these days and overall support is lacking.
I wouldn't buy them, even more considering that you are vendor bound and always need a central component/server for it to work.

KNX has a very broad pricing range - from very cheap to very expensive there is basically everything, there are countless PIRs for less than 100€ and some for over 400€.

A well planned KNX install isn't that much more expensive (10% on average)than a conventional install and the last Loxone install estimate I saw for a project was over 20% more than KNX.

Depends on what manufacturers and suppliers you want. Go with MDT (but avoid the GTs).

danielo515 OP ,

This is great feedback, thank you very much. So far I only talked to a loxone comercial, and another installer that works both with knx and loxone, and that person has recommended loxone. Do you know if loxone gives incentives to their installers ?

philpo ,

Yes.Some/a lot depending on how much you sell.
And of course for an installer a walled garden is much much more convenient instead of a open standard.
And it's much cheaper for them as they don't need an ETS licence, don't need an overview of hundreds of components and the certificates are cheaper/free as well - unlike KNX.

realitista ,
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There's quite cheap knx stuff on Ali Baba.

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