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eya ,
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"we would never use such a sucky piece of bloatware near anywhere we cared about security."

Crazazy ,

Hate to be that guy, but all those articles are 5 years or older. Have people had more recent complaints about systemd or did that movement that complains about it kinda move on?

eya ,
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People don't need more recent complaints when those complaints are still relevant today.

owatnext ,
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My initial experience with Linux was without systemD and I didn't like it when Debian switched to it. Void is comfy enough.

eldavi ,

i was forced to use systemd professionally when it was buggy and broke all the time in its first releases in the red hat eco system; so it's fair that some people would hold grudges against it.

therealjcdenton ,
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What a loser, not only is it an anime thing it refuses to socialize

devilish666 ,

At this point i don't care anymore if my system has systemd or whatever, as long it's works i don't have complaint
Maybe back when I'm still young i will agree with majority linux enthusiasm that systemd is bloat, GUI is bloat, or whatever. But now as long it's work & can do job properly i don't care or even care

devilish666 ,

Btw I'm using Garuda Linux for my daily drive

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Life is bloat.

Jokes aside, GUI really is bloat. Especially when it's made by a corporate company with absolute dogshit development practices.

On a more serious note, systemd is bloat. With all of you new kids coming over to this side, start with the right way: the runit way. Also compile Gentoo whilst you're at it.

Obligatory /s if anyone is offended, you bunch of snowflakes

dneaves ,

/s is bloat, say it like you mean it!

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I would, but I'm 2 years old and care about attention on Lemmy. I got downvoted already.

Maybe votes are bloat. I need to change my mentality

Telodzrum ,

Most of them think that they’re making a point about an argument their side lost almost a decade ago.

MonkderDritte ,

To which the other side replies with points outdated since the first other init/service manager aside from SysV and Systemd was invented.

communism ,
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I like how simple and fast runit is. And the added security is nice.

dneaves ,

For a while I had an Asus laptop, and no matter what, it seemed to not want to work properly with systemd-based distros. It would hang on-boot about 95+% of the time, I'd hard shut-off, restart, repeat.

On a whim, I tried Void Linux (runit) on it. And for whatever reason, it worked.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Staying lean in my init is a hobby

hellfire103 ,
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  • OpenRC just feels nice
  • Runit is simple
  • S6 is really fucking fast
  • Some distros (e.g. Guix, Void, Gentoo) come with non-systemd init systems by default, but I use them for other reasons

As for why I sometimes use musl, I like BSD. Also, Alpine Linux uses it by default, and most glibc software I've tried works just fine with gcompat.

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