Welcome to Incremental Social! Learn more about this project here!
Check out lemmyverse to find more communities to join from here!

eya ,
@eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

"we would never use such a sucky piece of bloatware near anywhere we cared about security."

Crazazy ,

Hate to be that guy, but all those articles are 5 years or older. Have people had more recent complaints about systemd or did that movement that complains about it kinda move on?

eya ,
@eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

People don't need more recent complaints when those complaints are still relevant today.

r00ty ,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

People that complain about people not running systemd. Why does it bother you so much? :P

Waffelson OP ,

I'm wondering why people do things that don't seem profitable from my point of view

FrederikNJS ,

Are you profiting from running systemd?

Waffelson OP ,

Does absence of problems count?

I'm not sure if it was related to systemd, but when I used void linux I had a strange sound problem that I never had on systemd distros,
when I tried to change the volume level, it returned to its original level,
I tried to find solution but I didn't found because void linux isn't very popular distro, and probably only I had this problem

3w0 ,

This doesn't sound like a non-systemd problem, more likely something related to Void.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Staying lean in my init is a hobby

MonkderDritte ,

I had to debug dns issues with a wm. Was disgusted what Systemd all does what it shouldn't.

Musl was fine until i had to install the one blob most people hate and love, Steam.

pete_the_cat ,

Systemd is nice, but it touches way too much IMO. Like, why does it need to touch DNS?

AProfessional ,

systemd-resolved is an independent binary and entirely optional, just developed by the same project.

That said, it’s good. Supported DoT and DNSSEC early, easy to configure. No complaints for simple usage.

oktoberpaard ,

And it does proper split DNS by default, using the search domains of each interface. That way you can configure a global DNS resolver while still being able to resolve local hostnames and without leaking other queries. I just hope they’ll also add DoH support, which is less likely to be blocked on a corporate network.

MonkderDritte ,

and entirely optional

In.the sense that it is usually delivered with all the other optional modules, and for alternatives or the old default you would need a bunch of shims and wrappers.

communism ,
@communism@lemmy.ml avatar

I like how simple and fast runit is. And the added security is nice.

dneaves ,

For a while I had an Asus laptop, and no matter what, it seemed to not want to work properly with systemd-based distros. It would hang on-boot about 95+% of the time, I'd hard shut-off, restart, repeat.

On a whim, I tried Void Linux (runit) on it. And for whatever reason, it worked.

devilish666 ,

At this point i don't care anymore if my system has systemd or whatever, as long it's works i don't have complaint
Maybe back when I'm still young i will agree with majority linux enthusiasm that systemd is bloat, GUI is bloat, or whatever. But now as long it's work & can do job properly i don't care or even care

devilish666 ,

Btw I'm using Garuda Linux for my daily drive

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Life is bloat.

Jokes aside, GUI really is bloat. Especially when it's made by a corporate company with absolute dogshit development practices.

On a more serious note, systemd is bloat. With all of you new kids coming over to this side, start with the right way: the runit way. Also compile Gentoo whilst you're at it.

Obligatory /s if anyone is offended, you bunch of snowflakes

dneaves ,

/s is bloat, say it like you mean it!

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I would, but I'm 2 years old and care about attention on Lemmy. I got downvoted already.

Maybe votes are bloat. I need to change my mentality

hellfire103 ,
@hellfire103@lemmy.ca avatar
  • OpenRC just feels nice
  • Runit is simple
  • S6 is really fucking fast
  • Some distros (e.g. Guix, Void, Gentoo) come with non-systemd init systems by default, but I use them for other reasons

As for why I sometimes use musl, I like BSD. Also, Alpine Linux uses it by default, and most glibc software I've tried works just fine with gcompat.

Telodzrum ,

Most of them think that they’re making a point about an argument their side lost almost a decade ago.

MonkderDritte ,

To which the other side replies with points outdated since the first other init/service manager aside from SysV and Systemd was invented.

Hobbes_Dent ,

Because they can.

Solely_a_Catt ,
@Solely_a_Catt@programming.dev avatar

Me using runit, I agree

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

For the good of all of us

Except the ones who are dead

Okami_No_Rei ,
@Okami_No_Rei@lemmy.world avatar

But there's no sense crying after every mistake.

You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.

Water_Melon_boy ,

And the science gets done, and you made a neat distro.

For the people who are using linux.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • linuxmemes@lemmy.world
  • incremental_games
  • meta
  • All magazines