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Update: I made a spreadsheet that ranks messaging apps for privacy

I've been working hard on the privacy spreadsheet, which has been in development for over 150 hours now.
Its been updated, and now includes more messaging apps and more data, with a better format.
I'm still working on the sidebar issue, if anyone knows how to fix it, here's the GitHub repo: https://github.com/du82/privacyspreadsheet.com

I'm aiming to make this the most valuable resource for privacy, beyond messaging as well, but one thing at a time.

Charger8232 ,

There is a typo: Three O's in "Outlook". Also, please add a row for services that include padded encrypted messages. Love this project!

Edit before I get shot down: I am aware the repo says "If you see errors or would like something added, please submit an issue here.", but Github is not private and therefor I will not create an account. Apologies for the inconvenience.

onlinepersona ,

https://github.com/du82/privacyspreadsheet.com/blob/main/datasets/Privacy%20Spreadsheet.xlsx ? Is this built on Microsoft Office using some kind of export feature?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

poVoq , (edited )
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Still very biased towards Matrix Vs XMPP when it comes to encryption. If it is "provider specific" for XMPP it should be also "provider specific" for Matrix... or rather in 99% of the cases it is not "provider specific" at all but available and enabled by default for both. That there are a few non-compliant server+client combinations is just a result of an open-source and decentralized network.

Edit: same for the "what apps can hand over to police section", which is also highly provider specific as it doesn't really concern the "app" but rather the server (which can be self-hosted).

delirious_owl ,
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Please just focus on messaging apps. That's a big enough task.

do one thing and do it well

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

Me and the boys arranging the next football hangout on tinder, no homo

lemonuri ,

Here is a good overview. You could compare this with your findings:

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html

onlinepersona ,

This one is better feature wise. When you scroll horizontally, then first column is always visible. Additionally one can filter.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Anon518 ,

Wrong link?

scott ,
@scott@lem.free.as avatar

It's the one they're replying to.

lemmyreader ,

Still using Google fonts for this spreadsheet ? Why ?

sep ,

For matrix there is a no for client removes image metadata. Did you check all clients? I would imagine it was client dependent.

Rose ,

Is there no Google Sheets alternative that would allow to display it without having to download?

Also, there's not a lot of value in placing it on GitHub if you can't even preview the changes of a submitted pull request.

FutileRecipe ,

allow to display it without having to download?

I can view the site without having to download with the below link. So not sure what you mean?

https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps

Edit: this is with Vanadium in incognito, if it matters.

moreeni ,

It works like that on Mull too. Maybe it's a desktop browser issue?

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Personally I'd prefer a markdown table that can be exported as a CSV

FutileRecipe , (edited )

No Molly, an independent Signal fork for Android, listing? Among other things, Molly handles data encryption at rest better and also has Tor support...which your spreadsheet doesn't even list Tor support.

I can understand not wanting to including Molly due to it being only on Android (though I think/hope a lot of privacy enthusiasts run GrapheneOS on Pixels) even though it currently rides the Signal servers so in compatible with other Signal clients, but at least add Tor compatibility, please.

Dkarma ,

Fix your readme and give a use case for how to use this git repo

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