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JamesGleick ,
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Literary sub-genre: Novel or play retells a classic from the perspective of a secondary character or characters. The new story tracks the the original but shifts some of its action offstage. The two versions intertwine, each now commenting on the other.

Examples:
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead (Tom Stoppard).
James (Percival Everett).

Are there others? There must be.

anna ,
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@JamesGleick A Thousand Ships, by Natalie Haynes, tells the story of the Trojan War from the perspective of the women (except, maybe that one woman…), starting, of course, with Homer’s muse.

Also want to echo others who mentioned Madeline Miller’s books; Circe in particular.

JamesGleick OP ,
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@anna I love Madeline Miller and will look for A Thousand Ships!

jessesheidlower ,
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I can't offer suggestions as good as the others in this thread, but I can point out something that no one seems to have done yet, which is that there's a term for this: a "paraquel", which is technically a story running at the same time as another story (often, but not specifically, involving different characters' viewpoints).

JamesGleick OP ,
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@jessesheidlower I wondered whether there was a word. Thank you!

cstross ,
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@JamesGleick There are tons! The Wind Done Gone, for example, retells Gone with the Wind from the slaves' point of view. The Last Ringbearer is an alternative take on The Lord of the Rings from the Mordor viewpoint. And so on.

csk ,
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@cstross @JamesGleick See The Penelopiad by Margaret Atwood, Lamb by Christopher Moore, and The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (though the latter two arguably aren't retellings of specific works of fiction by others).

csk ,
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@cstross @JamesGleick In the world of poetry, it might also be fun to look at Matthew Arnold's "Dover Beach" followed by Anthony Hecht's "The Dover Bitch".

JamesGleick OP , (edited )
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@csk @cstross That might be my favorite response. I last read that at least 30 years ago and it never occurred to me in this context. (The “secondary” character being the unnamed party to whom the original is addressed.)

csk ,
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@JamesGleick @cstross Yes. I particularly like that Hecht takes an oblique approach. The response isn't written directly in the voice of the woman addressed in Arnold's poem, but presented as hearsay via a friend of hers. That probably enables a more cynical tone, defusing the brooding sincerity of the first poem.

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@csk @cstross Not sure he could write that poem today, though.

tito_swineflu ,
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@JamesGleick Wicked?

BruceMirken ,
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@tito_swineflu @JamesGleick I forget the title, but someone retold "Huckleberry Finn" from Jim's viewpoint.

JamesGleick OP ,
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@BruceMirken @tito_swineflu That’s my example: “James” by Percival Everett. It’s wonderful.

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@JamesGleick @tito_swineflu Ah. I knew I had blanked on the title! I have been reluctant to read it because I consider Huck Finn to be something close to a sacred text.

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@BruceMirken @tito_swineflu All the more reason.

BruceMirken ,
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@JamesGleick @tito_swineflu Maybe so. Will add it to my mental "to read" list (which never seems to shrink no matter how much I read).

maysonic ,
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@JamesGleick Somewhat along those lines – the Alexandria Quartet’s first three books. A friend of mine,Juli Crockett, has written some works along those lines: [or the whale], riffing off Moby Dick, The Dawn of Quixote, and Orpheus Crawling…

cow99 ,

@JamesGleick Robot Chicken explores bits of the background characters of various universe

dioux70 ,
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@JamesGleick Ursula Le Guin's Lavina is a retelling of the arrival of Enee in future Rome from Enee's future wife POV.

The immersion in Etruscan culture and mythology is masterful.

carturo222 ,
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@JamesGleick The Meursault Investigation by Kamel Daoud retells The Stranger from the perspective of the dead man's family.

woulfe ,
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@JamesGleick Australian author Margo Lanagan has done several fairy tale retellings. The Goosle is a dark, rich version of Hansel and Gretel. Tender Morsels retells Snow White and Rose Red. Both are unsettling but ultimately inspiring explorations of what it means to be human. https://australianfairytalesociety.org/publications-margo-lanagan/

palecreek ,
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@JamesGleick Mary Reilly - Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde from the POV of Jekyll's housemaid

rowat_c ,
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@JamesGleick does it count if it's the same author (e.g. Durrell's Alexandria Quartet)?

rowat_c ,
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@JamesGleick I'm trying to sell the idea of The tail of Benji, from the prince's dog's point of view.

mce ,
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@JamesGleick would Life of Brian count?

jlundell ,
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@JamesGleick
Gertrude and Claudius (John Updike)
Grendel (John Gardner)
Penelopiad (Margaret Atwood)

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Grendel - John Gardner

XenoDangerEvil ,
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@JamesGleick rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead!

Thad ,
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@JamesGleick The Simpsons episode "You Only Move Twice" is a Bond movie from the perspective of an oblivious employee of the villain (Homer, of course).

Marvels, by Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross, looks at the first 40 years or so of Marvel Comics from the perspective of a photojournalist at the Daily Bugle.

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tpanero ,
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@JamesGleick movie: Roxanne

mcdanlj ,
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@JamesGleick C. S. Lewis's Till We Have Faces powerfully tells the Cupid and Psyche myth from Psyche's "jealous" sister's perspective.

All his life, he felt that Apuleius got one key thing wrong, so he changed one key idea to make it psychologically compelling. To do that effectively, he had to tell it from the sister's perspective.

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"Finn" by Jon Clinch tells the story of Huck Finn's father. It tracks but barely interacts, as he did.

It is really good, but really dark and brutal. So much that it's hard to say I liked it. It's been a while, but I don't think I'd say it was gratuitous, which tends to make me mad.

"Marley" by the same author, but I haven't read it.

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@JamesGleick
The Drover's wife.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drover%27s_Wife_(film)

It is an adaptation of Purcell's 2016 play and a reimagining of Henry Lawson's 1892 short story.

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Beowulf/Grendel
Le Morte d'Arthur/Mists of Avalon

koantig ,
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@JamesGleick "Julia" by Sandra Newman, from the point of view of Julia in 1984.

(credit where it's due: I only know of it since @acollierastro 's latest video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk01OkZoCoI&t=922s )

sketchndoodle ,
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@JamesGleick Wide Sargasso Sea

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