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MY rotting corpse just has some stiff joints, that's all.

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That doesn't give people license to lie about him.

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Objection , to Lefty Memes in ACAB.
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"Oh, you don't like America? Well why don't you go live in [country America bombed]"

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The Western world got a headstart through centuries of colonialism and slavery, while China, Cuba, and Vietnam were all victims of that exploitation. Of course somewhere like Vietnam, that was subject to extreme exploitation and then bombed to smithereens, with Agent Orange dropped everywhere, is going to have some challenges developing, especially when they then face economic sanctions from powerful nations afterwards. Yet, as I said, all of those nations performed remarkably well despite that serious adversity. When the communists first came to power in China, life expectancy was about 35, while it was nearly double that in the US, now, their life expectancy has even exceeded ours.

Western nations remain wealthier due to continued exploitation of the third world, and I'm afraid I don't have the means to immigrate. I am grateful for your highly intelligent and informed response to my points, though.

Objection , to 196 in Be rule do warcrimes
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Guess you never heard of the great leap forward or Mao Zedong. He did a number on the chinese population.

Hmm not familiar, does he have anything to do with this though?

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/4a1253ad-a251-4f6a-b694-1194dff8266a.webp

What’s wrong with you?

What's wrong with you? Why did you choose to become a bloodthirsty, bootlicking imperialist? Why do you support mass slaughter for profit that you won't even see, that will only go to the super rich parasites who are actively making life worse for the rest of us?

Objection , (edited ) to 196 in Be rule do warcrimes
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Lol! Three quarters of poverty reduction since the 80's was in China. "American hegemony" my ass.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c923742b-956b-4e96-8de2-3781eef8d20d.jpeg

Again, I hope the "defense" industry does to you what you want it to do to others. And I hope you have enough time to really appreciate it too.

Objection , (edited ) to 196 in Be rule do warcrimes
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Absolutely not. You deserve to be treated the way you want for others. If you support a system that kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people in a decades-long occupation following an unprovoked war of aggression, then, well, you do the math on what you deserve.

Anyway I would think you'd be thanking me for what I said. You just told me I should be "thanking Lockheed Martin," so surely to be on the receiving end of what they do is something you should be grateful for.

Objection , (edited ) to 196 in Be rule do warcrimes
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Why do you see being on the receiving end of "a strong national defense with private enterprises" as a death threat? Were you advocating for killing people?

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I literally only advocated for you to get what you're advocating for. Your conclusion that that means I was calling for your death only makes sense if you were advocating for death yourself.

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I only wished for you to receive the consequences of what you support. If that's death, then I'll turn the question back to you: why do you feel the need to wish people death?

Objection , (edited ) to Lefty Memes in ACAB.
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I'm not exactly sure by what standard you're distinguishing between "survey" and "empirical study," considering all of your cited studies also rely on surveys.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951003089863c

Not prepared to read through over 100 pages of unrelated stuff, perhaps you could add a page number? It sounds like this source is included only for a critique of the original study though, and I'll accept that that study isn't perfect.

http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862

Ninety officers returned the surveys for a response rate of 36%.

This type of sampling comes with both weaknesses and strengths. One important weakness of using this convenience sample is that the results generated on the nature of
the police sub-culture and the frequency of interpersonal violence on the part of police will not necessarily be generalizable. Although these results may not be generalizable,
this sample is satisfactory for testing relationships among the variables—traditional police sub-culture, police domestic violence. This sample comes entirely from Central
Florida, which further limits generalizability.

This paper is focused on a link between a domestic violence and a "traditional police sub-culture," it is not intended to be taken as a reliable, generalizable source of overall domestic violence.

http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/4951188/FID707/Root/New/030PG297.PDF

Did not investigate this one because I don't have the means to read floppy disk .iso images readily available.

https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2519&context=fac_pubs

This one does reference the studies you mentioned, along with other studies showing much higher numbers. It then goes on to say:

The data on intimate partner abuse by police officers are both
dated and potentially flawed, but in ways that make it more likely
that abuse is being under—rather than over—reported.59 Most of the
studies rely on self-reporting by police officers to establish prevalence
of abuse. Self-reporting is a notoriously unreliable measure; as one
study noted, “The issue of the reliability of self-reports data is
problematic when considering any socially undesirable behavior.”60
Intimate partner abuse is frequently underreported,61 both by those
who experience it and those who commit it. Underreporting is likely
to be particularly prevalent among law enforcement officers “who
fear, even when anonymity is assured, that admitting their own or
their colleagues’ abusive behavior may jeopardize careers and
livelihoods and break up families."

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All of those examples were successful in comparison to what came before. The ROC had a life expectancy in the 30's, and made no effort to address the basic needs of the vast majority of Chinese people. Cuba had a corrupt, authoritarian gangster state under Batista. Vietnam was suffering under brutal colonial rule. Under socialism, life expectancy, literacy, food security, and medical access rose dramatically and greatly improved the lives of the people living in these places.

So yes, they are success stories, they objectively solved many of the problems they were trying to solve and improved people's lives across a wide number of metrics.

Objection , to 196 in Be rule do warcrimes
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Well, if you told me you hoped I was on the receiving end of what I support, I wouldn't see it as a threat. Maybe you should try supporting better things.

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That's an interesting assumption.

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