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That's not really true. Pretty much every system needs some buy-in from the masses. Even a king can be swayed by the threat of a peasant uprising.

Also, saying it's not a democracy isn't the same as saying that votes have no affect on the outcome. The Holy Roman Emperor was elected, but that doesn't mean the empire was a democracy.

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Explain that to a trans person who, if the republicans gets their way, will be considered a sexual predator and imprisoned(at best…) for simply existing in public.

Don't have to do that one. I am a trans person and I have more skin in this than most of you do. I understand the risks very clearly, but the difference is I actually have a spine.

I'd rather explain why I'm not voting for Biden to any of them than explain to a Palestinian child who has only ever known war and hunger why I'm supporting the people sending the bombs.

My sense of solidarity will not allow me to sell out Palestinians for my own safety or the safety of my loved ones. An injury against one is an injury against all. And what you people say about Palestinians today is what you'll say about trans people tomorrow. If the Democrats decide to nominate someone who wants to exterminate us next time, we'll be just as much as an acceptable sacrifice.

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I have no interest in supporting a "less bad" pro-genocide person. I would sooner die, and there is nothing that anyone can say that would cause me to change that position.

Unlike Biden, when I draw a red line, I actually mean it. If that means we go to hell together, so be it. Genocide is fundamentally unacceptable.

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Ok then, if they believe they can win without me and people like me, then they can go right ahead. But I'd better not hear anyone blame the left when the democrats move right and lose.

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I have no power to stop it and am using what little power I have to try to exert pressure to stop it.

I'm not the one firing the guns. I'm not the one giving the guns to the people firing the guns. I'm not the one giving votes to the person giving guns to the people firing the guns.

You are not going to convince me to vote for someone supporting genocide by trying to shift the blame onto me. I know full well that I'm not responsible and that you're only saying that to try to get your preferred pro-genocide candidate elected.

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I'm not doing any of that. The people who are doing it are.

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It's well documented that everyone who disagrees with you is a secret agent?

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  1. The US doesn't have a democracy and never has.

  2. Trump was already president once and we didn't have "a complete breakdown of democracy."

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That's correct. When the policy change in question is "stopping genocide," I consider that a completely valid position, tyvm.

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Yeah, while it's possible to explain away contrary perspectives and any contrary evidence, it's better to block them out altogether so that you never hear anything that could challenge your conspiracy theory in the first place.

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No. If a third party gets, say 5%, it tells the candidate that they could potentially pick up that 5% by moving closer to that party's positions.

Voting reform is great. It also goes directly against the self-interest of both major parties so they will only ever support it if they believe they have to in order to win.

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The rest are the idiots that believe and agree with them.

Like any good conspiracy, it accounts for any possible contrary evidence one might encounter. If you find someone you disagree with irl, or someone online who doesn't seems like a secret agent, then it's simple - they're just people who have been manipulated by secret agents! The secret agents are still surrounding you and influencing every aspect of your life, regardless of silly things like "evidence" or "falsifiability." It's completely indistinguishable from a schizophrenic convinced they're surrounded by lizard people.

I’m still waiting for a good argument about how no voting or voting 3rd party gets better outcomes.

It's pretty simple. In a negotiation, having a credible threat of not cooperating gives you more bargaining power than if you show up like, "I will accept any deal you give me, I need this!" Voting is a negotiation. If politicians know that you'll vote for them no matter what you do, then they have no reason to listen to your concerns, whereas if you say, "I'll only vote for you if you do this, otherwise I'll vote third party" then they have an incentive to do the thing in order to earn your vote.

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"Everyone who disagrees with me is a secret agent"

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Based. I've also cut out meat and got rid of my car (have had to rent/borrow bc reasons) and yeah I agree with you 100%.

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