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Luisp ,

This is what got milei elected, the other candidate only argument was that he's not milei

exanime ,

Add a smarmy attitude and this is an exact representation of Pierre Polievre, opposition leader in Canada and likely to become the next PM

20+ years in politics (has never had another job outside of politics) and has only 1 bill under this name to show for (it was a bill to make voting harder)... and in over 2 years as opposition leader, he has yet to utter a single concrete idea other than "I'm not Trudeau"

Lotarion ,
@Lotarion@lemmy.world avatar

Gotta admit, not being a convicted felon and a public sex offender is kinda tight as an election campaign

Seriously though, istg, deontologists are about to singlehandedly give Trump his victory

rsuri ,

So to be honest the #1 reason I'm voting Biden by far is that he's not Trump. But if you want another reason, how about that he finally stuck it to TurboTax and created a free federal tax filing system?

pixeltree ,

And also abolished federal for profit prisons

Fades ,

Biden has done a LOT more than just fucking up turbo tax's should-be criminal racket.

First US president to join the union workers ON THE PICKET LINE
In many ways we have handled this world-wide inflation shit better than any other in the G7 nations
Unemployment numbers are at record lows, .01 lower than any other time in the past 10 years at one point in january and april of last year and since then has only risen around 0.3-4 points

I could go on and on, but instead, others have already done so for me:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/oneyear/

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE how fucking often I hear this goddamn BULLSHIT about how Biden is simply "not trump" and hasn't done much, like holy fucking Christ.

If ANYTHING, Biden should be over-commended given that he accomplished all of this with THE MOST CHAOTIC AND DO-NOTHING congress EVER.

lorty ,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

How is breaking the railroad steike being pro union?

Facebones ,

Or pushing legislation explicitly meant for busting up leftist orgs by stripping them of nonprofit status?

meep_launcher ,

I remember the way I felt when the railroad strike first ended- it was a smack in the face to the railroad union. He sided against the protesters and ended the protest without giving them what they wanted- sick time off. I thought "dang, Biden is just another in a long line of anti-labor presidents".

That was big news posted loud and everywhere.

And then only a few months later, and with little fanfare, The Biden administration pressured rail companies to give that sick leave.

Biden (actually Pete Buttigeig) prioritized preventing an immediate logistics crisis over workering conditions, but he didn't just let it slide off his table. Now we don't have a logistics crisis and the railroad union has more sick leave. Absolute win.

cumskin_genocide ,

Now that Trump has been convicted and isn't going to be on the ballot I can confidently not vote for Biden

WAKEUPWAKEUPWAKEUP ,

Gotta be a bot

cumskin_genocide ,

Bro that's some crazy girl math to believe that I'm a bot. It's like not believing in gravity because you saw a basketball player jump high

Honytawk ,

Ah, so you are just dumb and have no understanding of US politics.

Got it

cumskin_genocide ,

Now that's a bot response

RampantParanoia2365 ,

He's a troll. It's like a bot, but lower tech.

LengAwaits , (edited )
@LengAwaits@lemmy.world avatar

Even if you wanted to vote for Biden you won't be able to because he's not going to be on the ballot either.

Edit: Obviously Biden is going to be on the ballot, I made this comment just to see how the person I was replying to would reply. Their original post is a lie (Trump will still be on the ballot), and their reply to my comment confirms that they're either a failing comedian or intentional misinformation spreader.

cumskin_genocide ,

Guess I'll do a write in vote for someone fictional like Gollum

Fades ,

How fucking stupid can you be? You can run for prez if you are in jail, for this exact reason -- so that the opposition doesn't just jail their opponents and be done with them (like Trump would do, if he were to win again)

furthermore, Biden is FAR more than just "not-trump"

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/oneyear/

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE how fucking often I hear this goddamn BULLSHIT about how Biden is simply "not trump" and hasn't done much, like holy fucking Christ.

If ANYTHING, Biden should be over-commended given that he accomplished all of this with THE MOST CHAOTIC AND DO-NOTHING congress EVER.

cumskin_genocide ,

Bro is gonna have a heart attack ranting on the Internet

chemicalprophet ,

And if you don’t vote for not trump fascism is your fault…

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Fascism is the fault of fascists and no one else.

You just gave up a tool to fight back, even in the form of a lesser evil, for no reason but misplaced zeal.

If you fight back in other ways, fair enough, but that still means you didn't do everything you could to prevent the worst, but, good news, you'll hardly be the one responsible for that being the dilemma presented to you.

chemicalprophet ,

I really dislike when people who don’t know anything about me assume what I’m doing. I give up nothing. I’m just illustrating the librul mindset. It will be their downfall if you don’t consider it fallen already. 🏴🏴🏴. We’re on the same side regardless. Rock on, Comrade!🤘🏿

DragonTypeWyvern ,

That would be a "you" for the audience lol

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

"We're going to lead with our values and come together as one nation! We're for good things and against bad things!"

Anticorp ,

We can't agree on what good and bad things are, so your platform is confusing to me. I'm going to vote for the guy who makes me feel smart.

suction , (edited )

When the opponent is Trump, isn’t that exactly the right thing to do?

FYI: Most of those braindead “am I not allowed to criticize Biden???” comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don’t fall for it. These aren’t “lefties” or “tankies”. Just downvote, report, and ignore.

x0x7 ,

"When the opponent is Biden, isn't that exactly the right thing to do?"

That's what the other side is saying. You all should read Hans Herman Hoppe: The God that Failed.

https://gvid.tv/v/QbkYpm

TheOakTree ,

Shitty comparison. When people vote blue because it's "not Trump," they typically dislike Biden to some degree. When people vote red because it's "not Biden," they typically do not dislike Trump.

suction ,

Play some sports, little guy

ZILtoid1991 ,

Hoppe

Bruh

themeatbridge ,

No, Trump supporters are all voting for Trump because they want Trump.

lud ,

Report for what though?

suction ,

Election interference. Disguising yourself as the opposite side you're on is not wanted on any platform.

spirinolas ,

Oh, I see. What if they call for vote in a third party, is that interference too?

You guys are so afraid of Trump killing democracy that you're willing to kill democracy to fight him. You are blind.

Dkarma ,

On Lemmy you fucking moron...report on Lemmy.

You have the brain of a 5yo

spirinolas ,

You've made my point, thank you.

ezterry ,
@ezterry@lemmy.zip avatar

while not worth reporting, you have become the person in the comic, you are just assuming trump wont win and Biden is the opponent.

spirinolas ,

I'm not even American. In my country we can actually vote for who we want. Nobody can form a government against the majority.

Think about my words:

WE CAN ACTUALLY VOTE FOR WHO WE WANT

You can't. I understand your conundrum. But your solution is to accept it and to revoke your own vote. To revoke other people's vote who don't want Trump or Bidden.

Don't you see the obvious? Being forced to vote for Bidden for fear of Trump will just perpetuate the two party system. It will also keep sending the message that as long as the Republican party is scary enough then the Democratic party only has to be slightly better. Even if another party appears that represents better the will of the people it will stay blocked from power.

This sends the message to both Democrats and Republicans that it is in their best interest to keep things the same or, even better, worse. As long as both sides are always terrified of the other they'll always vote for "their side" as shitty a candidate they may be. You realize lots of GOP voters also dislike Trump but they see the other side as worse and Trump, in their eyes, is the prefered evil.

This is not about this election. Both Trump or Biden will likely die in office. This is about YOUR future. And let me tell you, either way, unless you break this cicle, it's a grim one.

Nobody trusts the US anymore. As an European I'll say we NEED a strong and righteous US but we're coming to terms we won't have one anymore and are slowly learning we have to fight our own way in the modern world. Pax Americana is over and you have only yourselves to blame.

But instead of being honest with yourselves you just attack what little democracy you still have left. It's sad in a shameful way.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can't vote "against Trump". We'd have a better democracy if we could. I would love to have a vote of no confidence on the ballot.

suction ,

Of course, there's exactly one way to vote against Trump, but something tells me you're a rightwing troll or some other kind of dishonest player.

spirinolas ,

Accusing everybody who doesn't see things your way "rightwing trolls" does nothing but help rightwing trolls. When everybody seems to be one the real ones become invisible.

suction ,

I’m not accusing everybody who sees things differently, only those people who repeat the same idiotic talking points about Biden.

spirinolas , (edited )

You attacked a member of the Green Party for not voting for Biden.

You'd burn down all the third parties out of fear for Trump and then complain when the Democrat President doesn't give a flying fuck about you.

Say everyone votes for Biden to keep Trump out. Why would Biden care about you? Why would he care what you want in a candidate? Why would he even bother to earn your vote? You'll vote for him as long as there's a Trump.

All you're doing is making sure all candidates get worse and worse. You are saying loud and clear you'll eat every bowl of shit and take everything up the ass as long as it's not Trump giving it to you. You are begging to be fucked.

suction , (edited )

Calm down, little guy. This isn't Russia, you can choose who to vote for regardless of party affiliation. So you "endure" Biden for the next 4 years and then you vote for Mr Beast or Dua Lipa or whoever you stylers like. It will not be the end of the world, or maybe if you're 12 (you sure sound like it), then 4 years might seem like a lifetime to you...but if you fail to vote against Trump, your cute little party will not exist in 4 years.
This time though, all hands on deck against Trump, it's not hard to understand.

spirinolas , (edited )

"Vote for Biden, or else". Fear tactics at its best.

He doesn't have to "endure" anyone. His vote is his, that's it. Deal with it.

By the way, I'm 40. And the reason I tell you is because I've been listening for that "just this once" crap since I WAS 12.

20 years ago Bush Jr. was the antichrist. Now...he was not that bad. Trust me, you can have worse than Trump. A competent one. On either party. And that mindset is bringing it closer everyday, you're just too blind to see it.

So be it. Every empire has to fall, I guess.

suction ,

“Why didn’t the Germans just come together in the Weimar Republic and all vote against the NSDAP when they still had the chance???”

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zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I'm a member of the Green Party.

suction ,

Doesn’t mean you can’t vote against Trump…

Dkarma ,

Literally all you can do is vote against Trump or for him...what the fuck are u smoking?

Dude go back to logic 101. Anyone else you vote for is "against Trump".

slurpinderpin ,

You can, his name is Joe Biden.

aesthelete ,

Really? I'm seeing a lot of <<headline about Trump>> with comments of "YEAH BUT BIDEN!".

Dkarma ,

Yeah but Biden s pretty great tbh.

octopus_ink ,

I mean... I usually agree with the sentiment the comic is trying to convey, but OTOH the "My Opponent" in this case is Trump.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/35b18aea-693f-4343-b2aa-dc98ea87522c.jpeg

Socsa ,

This cartoon might reflect my local council election where everyone running is an NPR liberal but it definitely doesn't reflect the US presidential election, where there are very big and clear differences between the candidates.

Anyone who says otherwise is pushing an agenda.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

"Well, that's not a very enticing platform! Who is your opponent?"

"Donald Trump."

"You have my vote."

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar
Dkarma ,

Student loan relief, aca support and expansion, negotiating with Medicare, support for democracy at home, support for Ukraine abroad...I could go on.

Only clowns and bad faith actors would even try to pretend Biden hasn't gone to bat for average Americans. He's also got concrete policy. The GOP has none.

Fades ,

FUCKING FACTS

Fades ,

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/oneyear/

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting-its-been-a-surprisingly-productive-2-years-for-democrats

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE how fucking often I hear this goddamn BULLSHIT about how Biden is simply "not trump" and hasn't done much, like holy fucking Christ.

If ANYTHING, Biden should be over-commended given that he accomplished all of this with THE MOST CHAOTIC AND DO-NOTHING congress EVER.

verdantbanana ,
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

not sure why everybody's butt is hurting over this comic

Biden has ran on this platform his entire four years

if his wrinkled catholic ass and his prosecutor wanted to do a better campaign and presidency they could but as it stands him and her just look like outdated, police loving, religious, zealots standing in the way of progress just like republicans

both parties are actively saying "I am not that other guy." and "We failed to get shit done because of that other guy and his guys"

also both parties say you are wasting your vote voting third party

at this point it is running like a cheesy ad with a company who says buy our product because the competitor's offering sucks never bringing up actual pros and cons

Shardikprime ,

I'd say, take the L, vote third party this election, and the next and so on

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I've been doing this for decades.

Shardikprime ,

I can do this all day

obinice ,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

The upcoming July 4th Election in a nutshell 🤣

lolcatnip ,

The what?

bloodfart ,

If you don’t want to vote for Biden but still want to vote, vote third party.

I’m voting party for socialism and liberation this November and you can too! They have a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to weapon shipments to israel.

Voting third party makes it clear to both major parties what platform they need to adopt in order to get your support.

DannyMac ,
@DannyMac@lemm.ee avatar
bloodfart ,

Lol

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

Hey man that's your choice, but please just keep in mind that when you vote for the third party, the other two parties gain more ground than they lose-- both lose your vote, but you're in no way impeding other party from winning. This is why people are saying it's a game of voting against least favored candidates, because your impedance is much more significant than your support.

It won't matter to Republicans what platform the constituents are showing them should be adopted once they institute Project 2025 into law.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Even if I were to buy that argument, it's only relevant if you live in a swing state.

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