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commie

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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

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commie ,

ia already serves all their uploads as torrents

commie ,

that is not the position of the academy and hasn't been for years

commie ,

they don't even have a position on vegetarian diets any more

commie ,

that is no longer the position of the academy

commie ,

they aren't constantly pregnant, and the vast majority of even male calves are brought to full weight before slaughter.

commie ,

It’s realy fucked up to eat and kill another sentient beeing to feed yourself

i don't think so. can you support that claim?

commie ,

everything eats living things. what is fucked up about that?

commie ,

curiosity, then suddenly, boredom.

commie ,

The utility calculation

voting for bad people is bad. utilitarianism literally says the ends justify the means and most people don't believe that. i'm one of "most people".

commie , (edited )

The PhilPapers survey shows the professional philosophers prefer deontological ethics. many people are not professional philosophers, but they do have religion. religion is almost universally divine command theory. that, too, is deontological.

commie ,

of course it doesn't actually matter whether I'm right about most people being abhorred by claims like "the ends justify the means", though I am. what matters is whether you can actually prove the utility value of your proposed course of action BEFORE the consequences have come to fruition. and since you can't, since you can't have proof about the future, utilitarianism boils down to overwrought hedonism.

commie , 
I’m beginning to suspect that you’ve educated yourself about utilitarianism

no, I'm degreed

commie ,

Alright so first of all: neither of us can prove to the other that our respective selves exist.

solipsism gets us nowhere

commie ,

WTF is wrong with hedonism

nothing. I am quite partial to it myself. but pretending you know what will create the most pleasure for everyone (or least displeasure) is just that: pretending. you might as well do what you want and make up a story about why it's going to benefits everyone because that's all that utilitarianism really is.

commie ,

you have a degree, you mean specifically in philosophy

my focus was logic and scientific reasoning but the undergrad requirements covered ethics

commie ,

It’s inconsistent to assert that I must have perfect knowledge about something while acting as though I exist when you have no way of verifying that.

there are ethical systems that can exist even if we don't. kantian ethics require only that you decide what should be universal law and act accordingly. that doesn't require that you know anything outside of yourself. by contrast, utilitarianism is fraught with epistemic problems.

commie ,

if you don’t know anything about the world, your ethics system might as well be empty.

i suppose so, but if your axioms depend on the future, which by definition is unknowable, then it is empty.

commie ,

if you must do what will cause the most pleasure (or least displeasure), then your axiom depends on knowing the future.

commie ,

even knowing how to act requires knowledge of the future in such a paradigm.

commie ,

probability is never 100%, but the categorical imperative is always 100% certain.

commie ,

if you've decided that a certain course of action should be universal law, then complying with that law is moral. The categorical imperative is incredibly simple to apply

commie ,

I’m not even getting into the fundamental problems with the insane, subjective, and ad-hoc way the moral imperative is supposed to work

this is handwaving. i believe the kids today call it "cope"

commie ,

If you decide that it’s wrong to allow an infant to starve, but that poisoning a child is wrong, how can you be 100% certain that what you are about to feed it isn’t poison? You can’t know that it’s moral to feed the child what you are about to feed it.

it doesn't matter. if i don't believe it's poison, then feeding it to the child is the right thing to do. done-and-dusted.

commie ,

you’re naive to think you’ll ever get to vote again if he’s elected.

he was elected before and we've had votes since then.

commie ,

A third party vote only matters when the message sent matters to the recipients.

if biden wins, he can't possibly lose another election, so nothing would matter to him. but i reject outright the labeling of any party as "third party" or the idea that it's supposed to send a message different from any other vote. when you vote, you are saying who you want to have the position. i don't want biden to have it, so i won't be voting for him.

commie ,

why did you post this without consent or consensus tho

commie OP ,

get this racist shit out of here

ban

ban

ban

commie ,

socialism has nothing to do with taxes

commie ,

there is a cure for political illiteracy

commie OP ,

the assumption has to be they don't intend this

why? if someone publishes something on port 80, why should I ever assume they mean anything but for me to have and use that data?

commie OP ,

Just because a court hasn't yet deemed that specific action illegal doesn't mean it's not illegal when you do it. Doesn't matter if the crime is theft, rape, murder, etc.

theft rape and murder are criminal matters. copyright is civil, and, yes, the courts can adjudicate every individual case.

commie OP ,

right. so hiring 50 college kids to manually visit every page and cache it for study is fine.

commie OP ,

You asked if it’s moral

I did not

commie OP ,

no such thing as a civil crime. you are thinking of a tort.

commie OP ,

Just like theft, rape and murder…

except that sometimes those are statutory. fair use claims cannot be statutory.

commie OP ,

I'd say it is immoral not to share useful information with other people.

commie OP ,

please cite that for me, if you have 3 seconds.

commie OP ,

so where do these say my use is not fair use?

commie OP ,

I have to admit, I did not realize that bare copyright infringement could be criminal, but it also requires criminal intent, so any defense lawyer would argue there was a fair use intent, and even if the civil matter were decided against the defendant, surely the criminal matter would be dropped.

commie OP ,

surely you see the difference between a crime and a tort, now.

commie OP ,

fair use is where we started

commie OP ,

it is pretty obviously scholarship and research

commie OP ,

there is no stipulation that the research must be non-profit.

commie OP ,

wrong.

commie OP ,

I don't think that they're trolling.

commie OP ,

oh, i'm OP.

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