Everybody's saying that we need to break down big tasks into small tasks to get stuff done and then do this. How is anything going to happen if its all or nothing? Maybe just push for pride here and push for other stuff elsewhere.
Sometimes you need to work with different people for different issues, who oppose your other issues. This is just making more opposition with no actual goal.
Like what is the message of "No Pride in Genocide?" Getting concessions from Israel? LMAO NO. There's just not gonna be any pride.
Stop linking everything, get some concrete goals to push for and go step by step.
"Can we just stop talking about genocide -- have you considered the genocidaires have feewings too?"
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Edit: I'd strongly encourage everyone to please read Mare's comment history. It's ... really something else. A lot of downplaying the fact that the US and Israel are committing a genocide.
What kind of person accuses queer people in Seoul of "virtue signalling" for expressing support of Palestine? This isn't the government or a corporation, but genuine people at Pride (in a location btw where it takes a massive amount of courage to be openly queer -- my cousin is from Seoul)
I understand the situation there is horrible, I'm definitely on the side that hopes for a free Palestine like any sensible person, but combining queer and LGBT+ with the situation simply is showing a deeper ignorance.
The situation they're under is entirely separate from the LGBT+ movement, and the violence and oppression LGBT people have faced in Palestine for countless years has been well documented.
These are two different things and it simply makes no sense to combine them together. This is why I'm saying they're simply virtue signalling, using the situation to appear morally at the top despite the two things not being able to coincide together.
You can't just bunch up all social issues as one, they have different objectives and intended outcomes.
Two things can be true at the same time. Palestine is a horrible place for us queer folks, and Israel is committing atrocities against the Palestinian population.
100%. This is why it's important to support Palestinian liberation, and why people pointing out that technically Israel is more LGBT friendly are just downplaying genocide.
A people under constant duress will be incredibly reactionary, and the path out of that mindset is progression, not extermination.
There [hasn't been an election in Gaza for 18 years so nobody there had had the opportunity to choose an alternative anyway.
That's especially crazy about the "Palestinians voted for Hamas". With the median age in gaza a bit below 18 years the majority of Gazans wasn't even alive in the last election. Of the adults about half weren't of voting age during that time.
