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arisunz ,
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Incomprehensible

May god have mercy on your wretched soul

can ,

I have no idea what any of this is trying to convey.

Maven ,
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I translate:

be a biologist
research clovers
everyone says "clovers have 3 leaves"
its a law of nature
go outside
find 4-leaf clover
i better take it to court for violating laws of nature

This is obviously stupid. Discovering something that violates a descriptive 'law' means the law was wrong. And yet, people do this in conversation all the time.

Sometimes casual conversation begins with a "But". E.g., someone might say "But anyway, have you seen that new movie Oppenheimer?"

Grammar nazis react to this by saying "You can't say 'but' at the start of a sentence if that sentence isn't a rebuttal of the previous sentence! It's a law of english!"

'Laws' of english are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive. But alas, we live in a society 😔

key ,

I have no idea what any of this is trying to convey.

jak ,

That grammar evolves naturally, like species do, so any rules we find for the categorization of either should reflect reality, not try to dictate it.

For example, I just started that bit with a clause, which means it’s a fragment, not a sentence. I still put a period at the end of it and started it without any lead in, which is “wrong,” but it’s more that the rule is wrong, because what I wrote plays the role of a sentence in this case.

Maven ,
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"I am annoyed when people correct me for using casual language. Doing so is stupid. Language isn't static. The purpose of language is to be understood, so as long as you understood me, I did it 'correctly'. Here is an analogy using plants."

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
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It's a Zen Koan.

Basically, the meaning of it is "live your life proudly, and don't let other people dictate whether your rules are right or wrong, because your rule just is".

Franzia ,

Why would all men have penis? But there are men who dont?

janet_catcus ,

exactly

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