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Holzkohlen ,

3D rendering with optix. I don't do AI nonsense other than chatgpt for the occasional shell script or python function.

genie ,

If anything AMD (for ML) is the hardware "I use [x] btw" (as in I go through unnecessary pain for purism or to one up my own superiority complex)

RustyShackleford , (edited )
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

Earlier in my career, I compiled tensorflow with CUDA/cuDNN (NVIDIA) in one container and then in another machine and container compiled with ROCm (AMD) for cancerous tissue detection in computer vision tasks. GPU acceleration in training the model was significantly more performant with NVIDIA libraries.

It's not like you can't train deep neural networks without NVIDIA, but their deep learning libraries combined with tensor cores in Turing-era GPUs and later make things much faster.

turkishdelight ,

Things have changed.

I can now run mistral on my intel iGPU using Vulkan.

RustyShackleford , (edited )
@RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

If you're talking about "running", that's inference. I'm talking about elapsed training time.

turkishdelight ,

Same thing. Inference just uses a lot less memory.

lemmeee ,

AMD is catching up now. There are still performance differences, but they are probably not as big in the latest generation.

slacktoid ,
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pelotron OP ,

I must admit when I learned this was Crowder I had a sad

Pantherina ,

Just change and reupload :D

ornery_chemist ,

Man I just built a new rig last November and went with nvidia specifically to run some niche scientific computing software that only targets CUDA. It took a bit of effort to get it to play nice, but it at least runs pretty well. Unfortunately, now I'm trying to update to KDE6 and play games and boy howdy are there graphics glitches. I really wish HPC academics would ditch CUDA for GPU acceleration, and maybe ifort + mkl while they're at it.

Berny23 ,
@Berny23@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Use driver 535 until explicit sync is implemented by NVIDIA.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Rocm is the AMD version

Phegan ,

Steven Crowder is a despicable human and does not deserve a meme template.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Its impressive you know the source of this meme

RizzRustbolt ,

I thought we were using the Calvin and Hobbes image now.

shield_gengar ,
@shield_gengar@sh.itjust.works avatar

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/c0cc705a-b154-4564-ad19-420a6845190a.png

ArmokGoB ,

He is a despicable human. Point and laugh at the moron. Make an example out of him instead of trying to sanitize the internet.

Tartas1995 ,

Not a criticism of you but a little fun fact about him for others, he has a bunch of friends who "aren't" Nazis but calling themselves or have friends who like to call themselves stuff like "race realist".

fl42v ,

Mb zluda also works

anarchy79 , (edited )
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I need NVDA for the gainz

Edit: btw Raspberry PI is doing an IPO later this year, bullish on AMD

Adderbox76 ,

Yes. Haha. Amusing. But really....Blender, Davinci Resolve, and a host of others. It's not a hobby, it's quite literally a (albeit small) portion of my income.

And it has nothing to do with anime nudes.

Anime/waifu is literally for pedos wanting a loophole. Sorry, not sorry.

joe ,

Back in my day, the AMD drivers were the janky ones...

Scraft161 ,
@Scraft161@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

last I heard AMD is working on CUDA working on their GPUs and I saw a post saying it was pretty complete by now (although I myself don't keep up with that sort of stuff)

CeeBee ,

Well, right after that Nvidia amended their license agreements stating that you cannot use CUDA with any translation layers.

The project you're thinking of is ZLUDA.

Scraft161 ,
@Scraft161@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

NVIDIA finally being the whole bitch it seems, not unexpected when it comes to tech monopolies.

In the words of our lord and savior Linus Torvalds "NVIDIA, fuck you! 🖕", amen.

In all reality, a lot of individuals aren't gonna care when it comes to EULA B's unless they absolutely depend on it and this whole move has me want an AMD gpu even more.

CeeBee ,

Ya, I was a fairly big Nvidia defender for the past few years. I used a ton of their stuff for my last job, and genuinely didn't have any issues with them (all Linux systems, gaming and AI workloads).

But their recent actions have really soured my view of them.

Scraft161 ,
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It's sad that more companies are just willing to screw their customers and squeeze them dry of every last penny just for the sake of profit and infinite growth even though we know infinite growth will never be attainable.

Every corporate entity is willing to forfeit their goals for money, especially if they hold a monopoly in a certain space and when growth slows they will look for other ways to offset that income.

I've learned that loyalty means jack shit to the company and it's just another thing they can exploit you with, I'm not loyal to AMD but right now they're the least unethical party in this race to the bottom.

carl ,
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That sucks if that's true. And would also ironically not be the first time AMD is getting denied a thing after they already have an implementation ready for it lol.

nexussapphire ,

At the very least you can use a display port to HDMI adapter!

CeeBee ,

It is true. Most all tech news outlets covered it.

notTheCat ,

No it's not

turkishdelight ,

At least the Arch people are not shilling for some corp.

nexussapphire ,

I'm tired of people taking sides like companies give a shit about us. I wouldn't be surprised to see five comments saying something like "you shouldn't buy Nvidia AMD is open source" or "you should sell your card and get an amd card."

I'd say whatever you have is fine, it's better for the environment if you keep it for longer anyway. There are soo many people who parrot things without giving much though to an individuals situation or the complexity of a company's behavior. Every companies job is to maximize profit while minimizing loss.

Basically if everyone blindly chose AMD over Nvidia the roles would flip and AMD would start doing the things Nvidia is doing to maintain dominance, increase profit, reduce cost and Nvidia would start trying to gain more market share from AMD by opening up, becoming more consumer friendly, competitively priced

For individuals, selling your old card and buying a new AMD card for the same price will net you with a slower card in general or if you go used there is a good chance it doesn't work properly and the buyer ghosts you. I should know, I tried to get a used AMD card and it died every time I ran a GPU intensive game.

I also went the other way upgrading my mother's Nvidia card with a new AMD card that was three times as expensive as her Nvidia card ($50) would be on eBay and it runs a bit slower than her Nvidia card did. She was happy about the upgrade though because I used that Nvidia card in her movie server resulting in better live video transcoding than a cheap AMD card would.

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

Who is saying to sell your card so you can buy AMD?

nexussapphire ,

You'd be surprised it happens quite a bit, especially when your trying to help an Nvidia user with technical issues.

The problems I see people have are kinda trivial and is usually fixed by installing a package or changing a kernel parameter. Stuff you spend a few minutes researching for a half second fix. It's like saying "Apple pages unintuitive to use? Throw out your MacBook and get a PC!"

I don't like MacBooks but I'm not going to tell them to replace it.

michaelmrose ,

A collection of folks ranging from moralizing open source fans, Wayland aficionados, and AMD fanboy. They also like to blame any Linux problem the user might be having on Nvidia use even when the user hasn't actually mentioned Nvidia. Daughter got chlamydia? Shouldn't have gone with Nvidia.

onlinepersona ,

When there are only two options and one is nearly a monopoly, do you still think there's no good side?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

nexussapphire ,

Both open source drivers from Nvidia and AMD have an MIT license, so what's your point. Both firmwares are still proprietary. You have the option of Intel arc now so it's not even a duopoly anymore.

nvidia-open license

AMD driver license

onlinepersona ,

Way to sidestep the question. I was talking about market dominance not licenses.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

nexussapphire ,

Why do you keep linking the creative commons copywrite websiter? It's not music, a movie, or a piece of art.

I've given up on whatever you're talking about because I don't think you even know what you're talking about.

onlinepersona ,

I have no reading comprehension, so I won't continue the discussion

That's actually smart 👍

turkishdelight ,

https://ollama.com/blog/amd-preview

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