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A_Very_Big_Fan ,

As someone who primarily uses Windows, Ubuntu didn't feel like it had any bloat when I tried it.

trolololol ,

Buahaha

Zink ,

lol yeah, I still use windows regularly, but every Linux distro I’ve tried has seemed like a lean mean OS in comparison.

redempt ,

paru -Qqtd | paru -Rc -

Samueru ,

sudo is bloat

mojo_raisin ,

ls is bloat, real Linux users just need echo.

echo *

sagrotan ,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

Twelve window manager are not bloat, it's variety!

callyral ,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar
> Install NixOS
> Learn about Nix
> Organise your dotfiles
> Learn about flakes
> Organise your dotfiles
> Learn about modularisation
> Organise your dotfiles
> ...
Zozano , (edited )
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Most people in this thread don't get it.

You know how some people compete to see who can get Doom to run on the craziest platforms, like a calculator?

Installing Arch with the fewest packages is like that. There's something oddly satisfying about stripping everything back to the most basic level - to make things work for you within the most constrictive environment you enforce for yourself.

It's like eating a spicy shellfish dinner and super gluing your asshole closed.

Zink ,

Arch Linux: It's like eating a spicy shellfish dinner and super gluing your asshole closed.

UNY0N ,

Poetry. >chef's kiss<

Agility0971 ,
@Agility0971@lemmy.world avatar

... most people don't get it ...

mutter9355 ,

Tbh I don't

caseyweederman ,

Fuck! I forgot nano and pacman again.

Zozano ,
@Zozano@lemy.lol avatar

Nano.. Pfff...

Requires three dependencies, while Vi requires one. Everyone can see how bloated your system is. You should be embarrassed.

Hey guys, check out this resource beast and laugh! Ha ha ha!

rickyrigatoni ,
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it's not bloat if i wanted it and installed it.

woelkchen ,
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It is bloat if dependencies aren't defined properly and the packager defines a too broad set of dependencies.

(Disclaimer: I don't use Arch myself but I am a packager of a small "scratch my own itch" but public repository for another distribution.)

rickyrigatoni ,
@rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah I remember that one time I tried to uninstall Banshee because I didn't want it and Ubuntu's repos were set up that it by default just tried to uninstall GNOME entirely. And it was GNOME 2 so uninstalling it was a bad thing at the time.

Rubanski ,

Btw I don't use Arch?

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Install gentoo

shekau ,

Debian is the solution

lemmylem ,

Is there a way to download Debian with GNOME without all the bloat?

Username ,

You don't use GNOME to get rid of bloat. You use it to get a fully functional opinionated desktop without tweaking too much.

If you want no "bloat", whatever that is, use some minimal compositor like Sway or something.

Personally, I say: Give me all the bloat, I love it! I love every cool and quality of life feature there is. I have enough space on any desktop computer.

lemmylem ,

Yes, I understand that, but I don't need all the games and stuff installed by default. Sway is a whole different experience. I use i3 on my older laptop (Macbook A1181 w/ Libreboot) but I personally wouldn't want to use it unless I needed to.

GNOME is a gorgeous desktop environment, I just hate the fact that I have to take a additional 5-10 minutes every install just removing all the stuff I don't need. Is there a debloater script for GNOME that you know of?

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