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pigup ,

I heard that the us still has good credit because although it owes trillions, it is worth quadrillions (all lands and assets), so not really a concern

quoll ,

have you considered printing your own money?

Varven OP ,
@Varven@lemmy.world avatar

Yes I have but then I relized hey that's illegal

Catoblepas ,

Printing imitation US dollars is illegal. Printing Varven Bux is legal! They may not be accepted everywhere, though.

PunnyName ,

Money = reputation

humorlessrepost ,

So I have a money for putting out easily? That tracks, actually.

volodya_ilich ,

It's not even about reputation, it's mostly about taxes. You enforce the private sector using the state's monopoly of violence to pay tributes in a currency that you create. This way, when there are transactions in the private sector, the main currency that people will want to use (provided it's stable enough) is the one that lets them pay their taxes later. You can't pay taxes with dollars in Hungary, which makes Hungarian people use Hungarian currency instead of Chinese Yuan even if the Chinese Yuan is a much stronger currency.

And yes, the state having the monopoly of violence and enforcing taxes is a good thing, before anyone accuses me of being an anarchocapitalist.

wreckedcarzz ,
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Imitation is illegal... Smh why does nobody just print real money? Am I the only one seeing this loophole?!

Tikiporch ,

How much does the USA have in assets? I'm willing to bet more than $34,000,000,000,000.00.

barsquid ,

They could sell Wyoming to Canada, that'd be alright with me.

InputZero ,

Canada couldn't afford it, their monopoly money is worth almost nothing.

wildcardology ,

And it's rising at $1 trillion per 100 days in interest.

Bishma ,
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The US has a fantastic credit score. Being the world's reserve currency helps.

Thcdenton ,

And collateral lol

Vej ,

I wonder how many debt collector calls the Whitehouse gets a day

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

I'm not even one trillion in debt

Spitzspot ,
@Spitzspot@lemmings.world avatar

Micro-economics vs. macro-economics

Shiggles ,

I strongly encourage people who still think like OP to look up what happened the last time we paid off the national debt.

AFallingAnvil ,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

...link?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Andrew Jackson sold off enough Native American land to cause a real estate bubble, and between that and other things started a bank run, and the kind of people that think they'll win the shell game pretend it's because non-productive debt is good, and the problem was elimination of debt, not how it was done and other circumstances (among them being on a gold standard so you can actually do a bank run)

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/andrew-jackson-national-debt-reaches-zero-dollars

LEDZeppelin ,

Tell me you don’t understand how credit score works without telling me you don’t understand how credit score works

CaptainSpaceman ,

Whats really neat is that modern credit score systems are only 40-50 years old

rockSlayer ,

And what's sad are the number of people that act like credit scores are a force of nature we just have to accept

shneancy ,

if it makes you feel any better you'd go to prison if you decided to run a ponzi scheme... unless you're a bank, that is

Varven OP ,
@Varven@lemmy.world avatar

Wait a bank is a Ponzi scheme

confusedbytheBasics ,

Not literally. I bet the poster notices the overlap between ponzi and fractional reserve lending and doesn't care about the differences

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

Which is?

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Bank is legal because... reasons...

confusedbytheBasics ,

Lota of differences but the key is: A ponzi scheme pays returns out of future investment. Fractional reserve lending pays returns from interest collected on investments.

PunnyName ,

The US also has a credit score but with other countries they do business.

Maelvie ,

International associations managing countries credit scores are all located in the usa. Therefore the incentive to valorize debt.

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