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Smeagol666 ,

As a fan of the Diablo franchise, I knew D4$ was going to be complete dogshit, so I never bought it. Every time I watch one of the professional streamers complain, I laugh my ass off. I think Hawg had it right; their plan is to dribble content to the player base a little at a time as a money grab.

Tarkcanis ,

I've had a good experience so far, so, no.

Donebrach ,
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Nah. I propose instead you watch YouTube gameplay videos before buying games. Plenty of “completed games” are trash and early access titles absolute gems. Also regardless, you’re buying incredibly complicated software that people sunk countless hours of labor into developing for pennies on the dollar so like whatever. If a game is bad I won’t play it. If it’s janky I will move on with my life.

Whisper06 ,

I think you’re a little late on that with Palworld and all.

semperverus ,
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That and palworld is actually good.

Sheeple ,
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I personally disagree but that's a matter of opinion

UnPassive ,

Don't preorder, and only buy early access if you're happy with the game as it is at the moment you buy it

Atomic ,

How about people spend their own money on whatever they want because it's none of your business

dangblingus ,

I respect people who wait for games to leave early access, but there are genuinely great indies in EA that are more polished than most AAA titles. Take each title on a case by case basis. Don't give shitty devs/pubs your hard earned money.

Tak ,
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7 days to die has been in early access for nearly 11 years now and I've had more fun in it than Starfield.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Dyson sphere is been in EA for years as well, and its probably going to be in my top 3 games for 2024 (which is when I started playing - at almost 200 hours), alongside Palworld, also in EA. Palworld can still be a bit buggy (maybe yesterday's update fixed some of that?) and DSP expects a much better CPU than I have (which is mostly a me problem, given my CPU is coming up on 10 years old but is a problem eventually for everyone at the extreme late-game I think)

semperverus ,
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Yesterday's update absolutely fixed some of that!

Manzas ,

Satisfactory pirated it in early access liked it bought it in early access

SuddenDownpour ,

If the company has a history of releasing solid, complete products or properly using Early Access for its intended purpose (BG3), or is punching above its weight and just doesn't have the money to reach the finish line (Palworld) I don't see it as intrinsically bad, as long as you as a consumer understand that there's a risk that the end result is dissapointing. On the other hand, there's Paradox, that releases supposedly complete games and advertises them as such despite clearly having the means to slow down and put them through QA before selling them in a mechanically broken state. They'll still become great games though, after 8 years of further development and 14 DLC.

Sheeple ,
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Okay but Pocket Pair) has THREE unfinished early access games (Palworld, Never Grave, Craftopia)

AFaithfulNihilist ,
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Palworld and craftopia seem to be the same framework so it I'm guessing they are gonna use some of the dump truck full money they got from palworld to contine their development process.

If this were a finished Palworld, it's already more game than most AAA releases, and more stable at that. If anything, calling Palworld a beta at this point seems like they are trying to raise the bar for release quality in general.

farsinuce ,
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No! I want my illusion of choice!

Draedron ,

I buy what game I want, whether it is EA or not. Worked out great with BG3. Palworld is another one with tons of content for an EA title and I had a blad with the universim during all of EA and it is now released with even more content.

kromem ,

Yeah, after all that Baldur's Gate 3 early access thing came out terribly.

zerog_bandit ,

This is more applicable to over-hyped, AAA titles. A lot of the games mentioned in comments are smaller, indie developed passion projects that get the TLC they deserve.

Japan_50 ,

Have you heard the tragedy of Cube World the Incomplete? I thought not. It's not a story the Indie Devs would tell you. It's an Early Access legend.

naevaTheRat ,
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You might be interested in this: https://veloren.net/

Imagine breaking so many hearts with one hang glider trailer that you spawn an open source mmo.

Castle story was the other big horror show.

BudgetBandit ,

Gosh I loved that game! I pirated it because I was a broke kid, it ran like a Diashow on the netbook so I did not buy it. Then when I got a gaming PC I pirated it again, and later wanted to buy it. I was disappointed lol. Still got it on my steam wishlist.

MammyWhammy ,

There's nothing wrong with buying early access games. You as a buyer just need to be happy with the current state of the game at the time of purchase.

MufinMcFlufin ,

Exactly this. I tell my friends not to get their hopes up too high about Palworlds eventually being completed because the studio has a history of abandoning titles in early access. I'm not telling them not to buy it or that it's not worth purchasing, but to weigh if where it's currently at is worth the price they're charging.

The studio may use the funding they got from its spike in popularity to actually complete a title just as well as they might sell out to a bigger studio (I'd imagine The Pokemon Company would love to buy then bury it), or abandon it entirely. We don't know what the future holds and we do know the studio has a history, so keep that in mind when you're purchasing or when you're asking yourself if it was worth the buy.

BudgetBandit ,

I'd imagine The Pokemon Company would love to buy then bury it

sighs and looks at DRM-Free versions

Draedron ,

I am not sure about the pokemon company. Palworld is a completely different genre than pokemon and therefore not really a competitor.

gooble ,

really, do tell, what games have they abandoned in early access?

Ostrichgrif ,

Craftopia which is basically palworld without the Pokemon aspect. I got burned by that one a few years ago which is why I'm still reluctant to pick up palworld. I think they did the same with their other game (now removed from steam), but I can't remember the name of it.

gooble ,

Craftopia was updated last week and is still being actively developed but whatever you want to believe

Sheeple ,
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Never grave is the one you're thinking of

h3rm17 ,

Which one have they abandoned? Because Craftopia still gets updates, and last year they got the open world update, which is a massive change.

I see a lot of people shitting on Craftopia saying it's a BotW ripoff, while its fun and completely its own thing (ok, asset wise and sound wise eerily similar, but gameplay has nothing to do with BotW)

ours ,

And the price should reflect the game's current state/value, not some hypothetical roadmap.

So more like Kerbal Space Program, less like Kerbal Space Program 2.

ParsnipWitch ,

EA allows people to create games who normally wouldn't have the money to do it.

MufinMcFlufin ,

That's to say Early Access, not the other EA in the gaming industry of Electronic Arts.

ChallengeApathy ,

For me, it depends. If the developer has a good reputation and is doing early access to present a better game at its full launch, I definitely don't have an issue with it. Unfortunately, devs and games like that are uncommon.

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