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AVincentInSpace ,

Literally beyond parody

Hadriscus ,

I was certain this was parody before I went and read your text. wtf

Blackmist ,

If you said to someone "can you keep a secret" and they said "I value your privacy, I'll only share your secret with 807 others", I doubt you'd be telling them many secrets.

Might as well just get your secret printed on a billboard and hang it up in town.

cley_faye ,

It's been normalised for years, maybe decade. The only difference is that now they have to bother with telling you and asking for permission (which some still ignore completely).

Also, since we're talking Outlook, some mail client send your credentials to their servers to improve your user experience by fetching mails on their end, meaning that not only data from your device are sent to whoever paid for them, but your actual mails are free for them to access without you ever knowing. The new outlook on desktop does that, but outlook is not the only one to do this.

We live in the greatest of times.

only0218 ,

They did that before.
They just didn't tell you how many partners!

answersplease77 ,

Off course they "value" your privacy. They sell and profit so much value out of your privacy

hungryphrog ,
@hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

At least there's a "reject all" button.

Gobbel2000 ,

That's GDPR coming through.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

807 partners sounds like the answer to what's the point of ad blockers

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Some third parties may have a legitimate interest.

Some.

potentiallynotfelix ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Lmao you're personal info is getting a train ran on it 🤣 😂

MystikIncarnate ,

It's worse than that meme.

.... You know the one.

potentiallynotfelix ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

You mean the girl with 5 black dudes

MystikIncarnate ,

See, I told you that you knew the one.

AeonFelis ,

Wait.. is this real or parody? At this point I can no longer tell...

aphonefriend ,
@aphonefriend@lemmy.world avatar

Oh it's very real. Microsoft is one of the absolute worst companies for amount of raw data they hoover up.

Don't believe it? Try logging into the Outlook Web client with uBlock or uMatrix turned on and look at the number of requests it stops.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Reality has become parody. There's no difference anymore.

TheCheddarCheese ,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

I love how they just say "we value your privacy" and then list out half of their means of data collection. Microsoft ain't even trying anymore.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It's a typo. They meant to say "we put value on your privacy." As in dollars and cents.

mods_are_assholes ,

This kind of doublespeak has become the standard for corporate bullshittery.

At this point, ANY communication from service providers that starts out like this is just another way for them to screw you for profit.

They learned it from politics. Anything 'for the children'...

That's how they sold us the Patriot Act, 'for OUR safety'...

FUUUUCK it makes me so ANGRY I taste blood...

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Cops say they're there to protect and serve.

And while we're on that subject, all C-suite execs are bastards too.

misterwu ,

It used to be 797

merc ,

800ish entities is not "partners".

"Partners" are people you could invite to site around a conference table with you. For it to be a partnership, you need to be able to have a meaningful discussion among all the different partners. 800ish is even too big for an auditorium where you're presenting to all your "partners". 800ish is a small arena.

Those aren't partners.

WindyRebel ,

I get what you’re saying, but that’s what it’s called in business. They are usually called “affiliates” more formally, and theyy provide ancillary income to a business. The whole thing is a partnership - I give you traffic and you give me some money if they convert.

Source: am in marketing and that’s just how it works.

merc ,

Yeah, but it's bullshit and I'm calling it out, and I'll continue to call it out, so stop it.

Boiglenoight ,

Do you pay for email? If so this is wrong. If not, it’s how you pay for email.

merc ,

Fair enough, they sell access to your eyeballs to their real customers, the advertisers.

But, what isn't fair is that it's 807 "partners". This isn't 807 different brands who might want to advertise to you, it's far more than that. This is 807 different "partners" among whom are Google, Meta, ByteDance, Amazon, Alibaba, etc. who then each go on to sell access to their hundreds of thousands of advertisers.

You can't expect to have a meaningful privacy policy when you're sharing that data with 807 different entities.

Boiglenoight ,

The way I see it, they have us over a barrel. Unless there’s law on the books that says you can’t do that, your recourse is to pay for email or setup your own mail server. Good luck getting others to trust that though. I guess you could pay for a 3rd party cert.

merc ,

I run my own mail server. It's a pain in the ass and I don't recommend it. But, trust isn't really the issue, and the only certs I use are from Let's Encrypt.

Boiglenoight ,

What about web hosting these days? Time was you’d get email as part of that deal, with your own custom domains. Have they farmed that out to services like Gmail etc?

merc ,

I don't know of any company that just runs mail servers. If you're running your own mail server, you're likely doing it on a small virtual instance. Adding web to that is easy. If you want a web frontend for email, there are plenty of options, although personally I just use IMAP.

governorkeagan OP ,

I pay for it - family plan. The screen after this is about where I want my ads shown in the app…a paying customer shouldn’t be seeing ads.

redcalcium ,

Clearly you don't pay ms enough so the poor megacorp have to sell your data to their 807 partners to scrape by.

Boiglenoight ,

Agreed. This is wrong.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

the reject all button should atleast be normalized

corsicanguppy ,

atleast

Not a word.

be normalized

The default for sure.

mods_are_assholes ,

Not a word.

So they missed the space bar, do you really need to be a douchenozzle about it?

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

They want you to think that "to value it" in this context means "to have it in high steem". When it's more like "to put a price tag on it".

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