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devilish666 ,

I'll give it a try
But please release on f-droid too

jeinzi ,

It can't be included in the official F-Droid repos, as it is not Open Source.

It's hardly better than any other proprietary software as the FUTO Temporary License does not allow users to make modifications and share them with non-programmers. They could include ads or spyware and no one would be allowed to strip that out and share the result with others.

They also clearly forbid redistribution "directed towards [...] monetary compensation". But F-Droid has to be compensated for their server costs as well, and they ask for donations as they should be. That's why limiting commercial redistribution alone is a huge issue that would keep it from ever being called "Open Source" or "Free Software".

Postmortal_Pop ,

Does it happen to do swype?

akilou ,

It does swipe. If Swype is something different, then no

helenslunch ,
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"Swype typing" is the correct nomenclature in this context.

cyrus ,
@cyrus@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yes, they self-implemented that.

So unlike Heliboard, you don't need to import Google's Swypelibs.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

How is this app better/different from OpenBoard?

supes ,

Openboard is dead and hasn't been developed in years. If you want an updated version of that, go with Heliboard. Futo also has voice to text capabilities. I currently have heliboard and futo both installed, buy may just switch to futo.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

thanks

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Been a while since I tried open board, florisboard, or anything else but I remember they didn't have one of a few mandatory features (for me):

  • adjustable height
  • number row
  • long-press layer
  • Swype typing

This has them all. Plus an awesome voice transcription using Whisper.

It's free to try (they ask to pay $10 for a lifetime license but you can use it without paying, though you shouldn't). It has no internet connectivity. Give it a go.

cyrus ,
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Just FYI, Heliboard (continuation of OpenBoard) has all of the above. Just note that you'll need to import Google's Swype library once to use Swipe-To-Type.

helenslunch ,
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you'll need to import Google's Swype library

Well...no need to do that here 🤷

dracs ,

I'd say the main benefit Futo has over Heliboard is that it has native swype typing with its own model (and also own voice typing model).

Still a bit light on customisation (certainly compared to Heliboard), but a nice first release certainly.

Reverendender ,
@Reverendender@sh.itjust.works avatar

Every day I get more frustrated with swiftkey. This sounds worth a try.

Aaaaaand not available for iOS. Womp womp.

mypasswordis1234 ,
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

Privacy and Apple are two opposites

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Hard to believe anyone makes apps for iOS, considering the hoops you have to jump through just to make it available to download.

They keyboard is one big reason I left iOS after only ~3 mos. trying it. It's absolutely atrocious and I can't believe anyone uses that...

Gboard is amazing, and this app (in pre-Alpha) is a close second. They just need to nail down Swype typing and prediction.

It also has FUTO Voice built-in, which is fully offline voice transcription with punctuation added as well. Works amazing.

Truly a phenomenal product.

otter ,
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Hard to believe anyone makes apps for iOS, considering the hoops you have to jump through just to make it available to download.

This is something I've heard, and assume is the case, but I don't know the specifics of. What kind of hoops are there?

toastal ,

Please correct me if am wrong since I have never made any mobile OS applications.

There’s the $100 fee or whatever to join the developer program even if your app is free. There is a slow manual review process. You have to share a 30% cut with Apple of any profit. Most of the tooling for iOS requires a macOS machine which is another massive money sink as well as being proprietary with no source available. I believe GPL or similarly licensed code isn’t allowed on the App Store either due to ToS conflicts.

Most privacy-friendly things take an source available, open source, free software, or other (post-open, copyfarleft) approach that conflicts with Apple’s model for software, but also developers are likely to be on Linux or BSD + a Linux or Android phone where everything will be more arduous to build & test while not even being a device they or their friends would use so why both building if likely you aren’t even getting paid for it.

independantiste ,
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

Finally an option that is not just a dumb keyboard, this one has some local llms and local speech to text, so that's pretty cool. Currently there's no multilingual mode and I can't find a way to adjust the height, but once these features are there I'll happily switch.

classic ,

How was the speech to text? This is the one feature I'm missing with the various keyboards I've tried

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Phenomenal

cyrus ,
@cyrus@sopuli.xyz avatar

Its great, same as their standalone Speech-To-Text Application.

jaagruk ,

Well you can use sayboard for that.

classic ,

Thank you, I'll check that it out as well!

Substance_P ,

It's great, I'm not sure if it can be tweeked like the FUTO speech to text app but it's fast. I have had it miss a couple of words but that may have just been coincidence.

helenslunch ,
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The height is under theme for some reason.

independantiste ,
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Oh, interesting, thanks!

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