Do any of you have that one service that just breaks constantly? I'd love to love Nextcloud, but it sure makes that difficult at times

butt_mountain_69420 , 5 months ago

Dude- it's like you're reading my mind.
I've installed Nextcloud 4 different times, the most recent being on docker desktop in Win11.
I've resorted to using chatgpt to help me with the commands.
LITERALLY EVERY STEP RESULTS IN AN ERROR.
The Collabora office suite (necessary to view or edit cloud docs without downloading them) WILL NOT DOWNLOAD.
The "php -d memory_limit=512M occ app:install richdocumentscode" chatgpt and Nextcloud suggest is not recognized by the terminal.
You can't just download Collabora, cuz fuck you, i guess, and you can't access Docker's actual file system from windows explorer.

I've typed nonsense into various black screens for upward of 20 hours now, and nextcloud is "working" locally. I can access my giant hard drive from my android nextcloud app, but it's SLOW AS FUCK.

I can't imagine how many man-hours it would take to open the server to the internet. Makes me want to fucking barf just thinking about it.

I've been fucking with Linux since 2005 and have yet to get a single thing to work correctly. I guess I'm the only one who thinks an (mostly) invisible file system in incomprehensible repetitive folders, made of complete nonsense commands might not be the best way to operate a computer system.

I'm really frustrated if you can't tell.

On another topic, trying to get Ollama to run on my Lubuntu VM was also impossible. I guess if everyone knew it was going to force you to somehow retroactively configure every motherfucking aspect of the install nobody would bother. You can sudo all day and it still denies me permission to do things LISTED IN THE MOTHERFUCKING DOCUMENTATION.

Is this all just low-effort poorf** bullshit that doesn't actually work?

phoenixz , 5 months ago

Am i the only one left who doesn't want a snap docker Kubernetes container and just installs nextcloud in a normal way and never had any problems?

excitingburp , 5 months ago

This has been a serious concern of mine. In the event that I prematurely die I have everything set up with automatic updates, so that hopefully my family can continue to use the self-hosted services without me.

Nextcloud will not stop shitting the bed. I'd give it a few months at most if I died, at which point my family would likely turn back to Google Drive.

I'm looking for a more reliable alternative, even if it's not as feature-rich.

bruhduh , 5 months ago

Same with my arch install, didn't touched it for 2 months even though laptop was turned off it decided to die when i launched it and run pacman -syu

FedFer , 5 months ago

I'd say that it's your fault for running a system upgrade after 2 months and not expecting something to break but it's not that unreasonable either

LordKitsuna , 5 months ago

I didn't realize that next Cloud was so bad, might I recommend people having issues try Seafile? Also open source and I've been using it for many years without issues. It doesn't have as many features and it doesn't look as shiny but it's rock solid

Have a random meme from my instance

https://seafile.kitsuna.net/f/074ad17b12ad47e8a958/

sebsch , 5 months ago

Nextcloud ist just fine. Using it since more than 7 years now with zero problems

Geert , 5 months ago

I'm having a hard time believing that.. There is a difference between being able to fix the update issues every time without problems or having no problems at all. But if so, neat.

Heavybell , 5 months ago

I dunno what you guys are doing that makes your nextcloud die without touching it. Mine runs happily until I decide to update it, and that usually goes fine, too. I don't use docker for it, tho.

MaxHardwood , 5 months ago

I dunno what you guys are doing that makes your nextcloud die without touching it

Mine runs happily until I decide to update it

bosnia , 5 months ago

I swear every update ends up breaking it and putting it into maintenance mode for me. This would then lead to 1-2 hours of going through previously visited links to try and figure out what fixed it previously. For me personally, it seems like it's usually mariadb requiring a manual update that fixes it but it's always a little scary.

tostiman , 4 months ago

Just dont update it then

leraje , 5 months ago

In my own personal experience, Nextcloud;

• Needs constant attention to prevent falling over
• Administration is a mess
• Takes far too long to get used to its 'little ways'
• Basics like E2EE don't work
• Sync works when it feels like it
• Updating feels like russian roulette

JoeKrogan , 5 months ago

No if I have to keep fixing it , it is not worth my time.

I installed owncloud years ago and came to the same conclusion and just got rid of it. I use syncthing nowadays though its not the same thing.

marcos , 5 months ago

Yep, I've adapted all of my setup to syncthing, and never looked back.

0110010001100010 , 5 months ago

Any guidance on this? I looked into Synthing at one time to backup Android phones and got overwhelmed very quickly. I'd love to use it in a similar fashion to NextCloud for syncing between various computers too.

marcos , 5 months ago

Well, it works in a different way than NextCloud. You don't have a server, instead you just make a share between your computers and they are all peers.

It takes some getting used to the idea, but it's actually much simpler than NextCloud.

squidspinachfootball , 5 months ago

So if I wanted to sync photos from my phone to the computer, then delete the local copies on my phone to save space, that would not work?

E: But keep the copies on the computer, of course

marcos , 5 months ago

You would have to move them into some folder you are not syncing.

MentallyExhausted , 5 months ago

I run it and mariaDB in docker and they run perfectly when left alone, but everything breaks horribly if I try to do an update. I recently figured out that you need to do updates for NC in steps, and docker (unRAID’s, specifically) defaults to jumping to the latest version. I think I figured out how to specify version now so fingers crossed I won’t destroy it the next time I do updates.

atmur OP , 5 months ago

This is probably what I'm doing wrong. I'm using linuxserver's docker which should be okay to auto update, but it just continuously degrades over time with updates until it becomes non-functional. Random login failures, logs failing to load, file thumbnails disappearing, the goddamn Collabora office docker that absolutely refuses to work for more than one week, etc.

I just nuke the NC docker and database and start from scratch every year or so.