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Jensen Huang says kids shouldn't learn to code — they should leave it up to AI.

Jensen Huang says kids shouldn't learn to code — they should leave it up to AI.::At the recent World Government Summit in Dubai, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang made a counterintuitive break with tech leader wisdom by saying that programming is no longer a vital skill due to the AI revolution.

OutrageousUmpire ,

Disagree. They need to learn to code. And be experts with AI tools.

Just like kids with a calculator.

T156 ,

Isn't this basically "CEO of AI hardware company says that more people should use AI"? Not really news, since you wouldn't really expect him to say otherwise.

Pat12 ,

I know some Gen Z recent grads who use chatgpt to write their code.

back in my day, we had to write our code ourselves....

desconectado ,

I use chatgpt for coding (millennial). You still need to know how to code though, because 50% of the time it doesn't work properly. You need to explain the nature of your variables, and the overall process you want to achieve. But I still save a good amount of time, because now I don't need to remember the specific syntax for a particular function, and it has saved me reading documentation because in can tell how some functions work by context.

Not learning how to code because of ai is like not learning math because there are calculators, sure, you don't need to know the multiplication tables by heart, but you need to know what multiplication is and how it's used to solve real world pringles.

Cyyy ,

i use chatgpt for coding (i can code myself but it helps with a lot of stuff), and if I wouldn't be able to code i would wonder why nothing works. but because i know how to code i know that chatgpt is often just writing horrible code which often does something completly else than asked. so i often think "screw this i do it myself" after countless trys to let chatgpt fix it.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Dammit, he actually has an engineering degree, I can't make snide remarks about business majors

Or can I?

Imgonnatrythis ,

"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time...when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness..."

Carl Sagan,
Astrologist/Horposcopist from ancient times.

hubobes ,

I use LLMs daily to code but the more complex the issue is I try to solve the more work I have to do to get it to actually produce what I need. I feel like at some point we will get to where UML failed…it will just be easier to write the code.

But I don’t like writing long Linq queries or Angular templates or whatever, it does that quite well (70% of the time it is 70% correct or so). So it takes over the part of coding I dislike.

So no just being able to write code might be unnecessary but that’s like 10% of my day.

fidodo ,

Writing single functions just isn't the hard part of programming in the vast majority of programs, the hard part is managing a project in a maintainable, robust, and extensible way.

ProxyZeus ,
@ProxyZeus@lemmy.world avatar

If Nvidia driver quality goes down in the next couple years, we know why.

Holyginz ,

My God the stupidity goes to the top!

nxdefiant ,

The man has a crippling spatula habit, he needs the income.

jaschen ,

You still need the fundamentals. You still need to understand problem solving and debugging.

yildolw ,

Yes, yes, keep my labour in high demand and my salary high

kbal ,
@kbal@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Kids should focus on the one thing AI can't do: Stand-up comedy.

kometes ,
@kometes@lemmy.world avatar

Have you looked carefully at AI-produced code?

OrangeCorvus ,
@OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world avatar

So this movie is going to become a reality a lot sooner? 1-2 generations max, yikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lai9QhBibk

bionicjoey ,

https://media1.tenor.com/m/BNA0KXjX-1AAAAAC/linus-torvalds-linus.gif

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

What is this from?

Blemgo ,

Linus Torvals talk at the Aalto University.
Specifically a segment where he talks about how hard it is to work with Nvidia when it comes to the Linux kernel.

Thcdenton ,

Shut up Jensen, and fuck your jacket.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Ngl, kinda like the jacket, but he makes it look dumb by talking all dumb

Thcdenton , (edited )

Guarentee he wears it to hide his manboobs on stage.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Yeah, I can respect / relate to that too. I just don't like that he's giving those of us with boobs a bad name by publically being such a dumbass.

Psaldorn ,
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

I asked ChatGPT to show me how to do some Godot4.2 C# stuff the other day as I transition from Unity, it was 70% incorrect.

Good times. (It was probably right for an older version, but I told it the actual version)

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Yea, and as we all know, AI will never progress further than it's current state. /s

leftzero ,

Not with LLM's it won't. They're a dead end. In their rush for short term profits so called AI companies have poisoned the well; the only way to "improve" an LLM is to make it larger, but most of the content in the internet is now produced by these fancy autocomplete engines, so there's not only no new and better content to train them on, but since they can't really generate anything they haven't been trained on doing so on LLM generated text will only propagate and maximise any errors, like making photocopies of photocopies or JPEGs of JPEGs.

It's all a silly game of telephone now; a circular LLM centipede fed on its own excrement, distilling its own garbage to the point of maximum uselessness.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Mhmm, give it another year or so. You are like people in the 90's saying while the internet may be useful for emails, that's the limit of what it can accomplish.

Forgive me if your claims of a glass ceiling ring hollow considering all the previous glass ceilings people have claimed about AI.

"An AI will never be able to write in a human like way" Check.

"An AI will never be able to generate a coherent image" Check

"An AI generated image could never be better than a real artist" Check

"AI will never be able to generate a whole video without messing it up" Check

I'm not sure how you can just flippantly say it's not going to advance or progress in any more meaningful way. This is still a very new technology and it's already shattered the limits of what people thought was possible.

leftzero ,

Oh, AI is going to progress. LLMs, which are merely applied statistics and no more AI than Markov chains, are not, at least in any significant way (sure, they might get bigger, which won't really change them qualitatively, but as I pointed out there's no unpoisoned content to train them on, so making them bigger is moot anyway, other than as a means to temporarily inflate the bubble).

kometes ,
@kometes@lemmy.world avatar

LLM is a plagiarizing machine. Who will write the code for it to plagiarize?

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