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Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Whole thing is sketchy AF. I hope very few of its selected users falls for the scam invitation to buy early shares. They're not only exploiting them for free content and free moderation, they want them to help pay for Spez's ludicrous compensation.

athos77 , (edited )

So, three of my old accounts apparently qualified for the buy-shares offer. Two of them were over the 200k karma threshold to get the offer. Interestingly, the third account had only 191k karma and got the message a day or two later.

Even more interestingly, yesterday a fourth account that I haven't posted to in over a decade received the offer, and this one only had 50k karma. Admittedly, several accounts were mods, but they were mods of extremely small, very inactive subs, and I had de-modded myself after deleting my data. They also sent an email to the my registered email address for the fourth account (but I don't know if that's relevant because none of my other accounts had emails registered).

I'm not sure what's going on. Did they get so little response from the early offers that they're going to the accounts of former mods or lowering the karma requirements? I know a couple of my accounts ended up connected by IP information; did they try to contact my old fourth account by PM and email because it was somehow connected to the higher-level accounts, or because they're getting desperate? Maybe they're just trying to get lots of numbers to show that redditors are eager to participate, to gin up an ignorant public's enthusiasm prior to the IPO?

I have to think that, at some level, they're getting desperate, because it seems so much effort to go to, to dig up an account that hasn't posted in a decade and then send PMs and emails to it.

Shiggles ,

My reddit account has just shy of 100k comment karma and less than 2k link karma, and I still got the message.

I marked it as spam for “unsolicited messaging” lmao

athos77 ,

Oh, lmao!

Shdwdrgn ,

I have 56k of comment karma and only 792 post karma (no K there,only 792) but I got an email as well. Technically I guess I'm a mod because I started a sub with another guy but it never saw anything beyond the greetings post. However my account is over 13 years old so maybe that counts for something?

And yeah, I have no intention of wasting my money. They might see a slight profit initially as some might view this as the "new shiny", but then I fully expect it to tank the moment the investors get a look at their records and start jumping ship.

Lennnny ,
@Lennnny@lemmy.world avatar

36k karma on mine, haven't logged in for months. Just did and I got the invite.

They're desperate yo.

foggy ,

When it comes to the inevitable Renaissance and guillotines, I just hope spez is close to the front of the line.

This post will probably get automoderated to suicidesville. It's sensitive to the fally blade decapitator thingy.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Every photo I've seen of Spez looks like a real life trollface.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar
moistclump ,

I’ve known about shorting for a while but this might actually push me into learning the ins and outs of how. Because it would be nice to profit off this goin tits up.

EndOfLine ,

There are 54 pages of risk factors, which, after reading many S-1 filings over the years, seems pretty long. One of the most notable is the sentence, “We have incurred substantial losses during our history and may never achieve profitability.”

Well that doesn't sound very promising for them.

AbidanYre ,

may never achieve profitability.

I'm not an expert or anything, but that doesn't sound like a very good investment.

solidgrue ,

You could short it...

Icalasari ,

I think that's Spez's plan

LesserAbe ,

My understanding is on these fillings you're supposed to give a full accounting of all the risks so investors can't sue you later. It's like going for surgery where they say you could die - not saying it's likely, but tries to get them off the hook.

athos77 , (edited )

Because spez insists on chasing the newest tech shiny - but only after it's peaked - NFTs, crypto, RPAN, etc. And although it may yet turn around for him and for reddit, notice that he only jumped onto the AI boom three months after last spring's series of AI announcements, showing that he's once again way behind the times.

Edit: one thing has always struck me since his interview last summer. spez said something like "reddit will continue to be profit-driven until the profits arrive". Like the arrival of profits was inevitable. Like he didn't need to do anything except wait. Just be patient and the profits will arrive in their own time, not like things have to be envisioned and planned and put in place to get profits, just ... they'll arrive. Some day.

It seems a remarkably lackadaisical attitude for a CEO to have.

nucleative ,

Didn't spez also say that Reddit was a side project that just got out of hand?

Being a tech nerd does not mean you have what it takes to lead a company to profitability.

ZeroCool ,
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spez said something like “reddit will continue to be profit-driven until the profits arrive”. Like the arrival of profits was inevitable. Like he didn’t need to do anything except wait.

"It’s easy to sit there and say you’d like to have more money. And I guess that’s what I like about it. It’s easy... Just sitting there, rocking back and forth, wanting that money." Deep Thoughts with Jack Handey, Saturday Night Live

furikuri ,

Probably doesn't help that Reddit has spent years cultivating some of the most advertiser unfriendly content available (out of the top 100 visited sites). I doubt anyone's chomping at the bit to advertise on pages like r/jailbait, r/piracy, and r/fatpeoplehate. Even if the worst of the worst have been banned the overall "culture" can't be erased as quickly

LiveLM ,

r/jailbait

Oh ho ho, I've heard spez is quite familiar with this one

SkyezOpen ,

Rpan was pretty cool. Saw a lot of talented musicians and cute cats.

Ringmasterincestuous ,

Not related to topic but that was my first wild lackadaisical on lemmy.

Worth it 💪🏻

ApeNo1 ,
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This does not stop companies being successful in IPOs and giving share holders lucrative gains. Take Atlassian as an example of a company seen as successful but is not profitable.

Atlassian has not yet posted a full-year profit in its 20+ years

andrewrgross ,
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What does that mean? Who pays the shortfalls?

ApeNo1 ,
@ApeNo1@lemm.ee avatar

I am not a CFO but I believe essentially by eating into cash reserves and accumulating debt. Also there is some wizardry when you work out operating profit / EBIT.

Earnings vs Debt

Someone more financially competent may want to offer a more accurate answer.

Bdtrngl ,

Lots of losses but still paid spez a cool $193 million.

balancedchaos ,

For being a complete douche.

bobs_monkey ,

Iirc it was $600k as actual payroll, the rest in private stock. But still, fuck the greedy little pig boy.

Holyginz ,

Better yet, don't fuck him.

superduperenigma ,

Spez wouldn't be into it anyway since I'm not a 15 year old girl.

Holyginz ,

True. Dude also looks like a textbook example of someone who would get their lunch money stolen.

bobs_monkey ,

We can get him a "present" as a "congratulatory" gesture on his ipo

Hello_there ,

600k for causing a mass migration. Fuck that and fuck CEO compensation in general

huginn ,

That 192M in private stock gonna be 192K soon

bobs_monkey ,

Yup, ain't that some shit

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