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GlitterInfection , to Technology in United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage

That's fair. Corporations are people. And people are the worst.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage

Thank you!

Searching for what you said got me this recent article which does a better job of explaining all the issues and complaints:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24107669/doj-v-apple-apple-watch-messaging-digital-wallets-lock-in

GlitterInfection , to Technology in United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage

Yes yes. Apple Bad pls upvote me.

But in this case I pointed out some things that are wrong with the DOJ's complaints, one thing that is valid, and asked questions about two that nobody, and my searches, have answered. They seem to also be completely wrong on the DOJ side.

I doubt you use their products or will be affected by them being altered in any way, but I do and will, so this case interests me as do the details.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage

Right?

The complaints that they did list, many aren't valid anymore. But they didn't call out a lot of common complaints.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage

Let me put it this way, superapps rely on harvesting and exploiting massive amounts of user data for profit, which is much worse than anything that Apple does. That aspect should be banned.

The quality of the service or content they provide is not my preference, but that's not what I was referring to as hot garbage in this case.

GlitterInfection , (edited ) to Technology in United States v. Apple is pure nerd rage

Edit: an upstream comment led me to be able to find this article which does a way better job of explaining the DOJ complaints:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/21/24107669/doj-v-apple-apple-watch-messaging-digital-wallets-lock-in

Honestly, I would be happy if Apple addressed all of these things as long as doing so has absolutely zero chance of degrading my experience as their customer.

My original comment:

Apple already announced that it'll be supporting RCS sometime this year. Cloud streaming games have been available on iOS for years now, but prior they had to be a Web App and as of earlier this year that is no longer the case. Now they can be a regular app in the app store.

Superapps are hot garbage and should be banned. But WeChat exists on iPhone so I am honestly confused about this one. What features is it not allowed to have?

The NFC and wallet issue is a thing still.

The watch thing is a head scratcher. What API does Apple Watch currently use which 3rd party watches don't have access to? Because it seems like Apple is being blamed for other companies not making better products.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Unpatchable vulnerability in Apple chip leaks secret encryption keys

Doesn't it require a separate process to be using the cryptographic algorithm in the first place in order to fill the cache in question?

If it's done in-process of a malicious app that you're running, why wouldn't the app just steal your password and avoid all of this in the first place?

An efficient and fast version of this in Javascript would be worrisome. But as-is it's not clear if this can be optimized to go faster than 1-2 uninterrupted hours of processing, so hopefully that doesn't end up being the case.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Unpatchable vulnerability in Apple chip leaks secret encryption keys

Yup, but they're probably as likely to beat you up to get your passwords.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Unpatchable vulnerability in Apple chip leaks secret encryption keys

That's the sentiment I was going for.

There's reason to care about this but it's not presently a big deal.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Unpatchable vulnerability in Apple chip leaks secret encryption keys

It depends, some M-devices are iOS and iPadOS devices, which would have this hardware issue but don't have actual background processing, so I don't believe it's possible to exploit it the way described.

On Mac, if they have access to your device to be able to set this up they likely have other, easier to manage, ways to get what they want than going through this exploit.

But if they had your device and uninterrupted access for two hours then yes.

Someone who understands it all more than I do could chime in, but that's my understanding based on a couple of articles and discussions elsewhere.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Unpatchable vulnerability in Apple chip leaks secret encryption keys

This requires local access to do and presently an hour or two of uninterrupted processing time on the same cpu as the encryption algorithm.

So if you're like me, using an M-chip based device, you don't currently have to worry about this, and may never have to.

On the other hand, the thing you have to worry about has not been patched out of nearly any algorithm:

https://xkcd.com/538/

GlitterInfection , to Comic Strips in Meow

I missed the word "cat" and this still made sense to me. I hate getting phone calls of any kind.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Using AI to spot edible mushrooms could kill you | AI tools are good for some things, but don’t trust your health to apps that make frequent mistakes

And they didn't test any of them, and linked to an actual test which ALSO didn't test any of them as if it supported the claim that these apps are, as you (but not the article) say, are grifter apps.

GlitterInfection , to Technology in Using AI to spot edible mushrooms could kill you | AI tools are good for some things, but don’t trust your health to apps that make frequent mistakes

I read the article and its linked sources in a few cases. How else would I have been able to directly address them?

When Australian scientists tested the accuracy of popular mushroom ID apps last year after a spike in poisonings, they found the most precise one correctly identified dangerous mushrooms 44 percent of the time.

Notice this paragraph which links to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36794335/

The extract for which talks about the following apps:

Picture Mushroom (Next Vision Limited©), Mushroom Identificator (Pierre Semedard©), and iNaturalist (iNaturalist, California Academy of Sciences©)

None of which use LLMs and predate the issue that the article is talking about. I checked, before my comment, all of their pages on the iOS App store, at least. They're all 4+ years old and none use LLMs.

Amusingly enough, the Public Citizen article linked earlier in OP's article calls out iNaturalist as something they've been working with to positively improve the experience of identifying mushrooms:

https://www.citizen.org/article/mushroom-risk-ai-app-misinformation/

The Fungal Diversity Survey, a project devoted to correcting the many gaps in understanding regarding fungal biodiversity, partners with iNaturalist to document and verify mushroom observation

But ultimately there were no apps ACTUALLY TESTED that use OpenAI or LLMs for their identification.

GlitterInfection , to Comic Strips in XXX

He's put out the best work of his career more recently.

Mandy, The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, Mom and Dad, Color Out Of Space, are all incredible films.

And I've heard Pig is a masterpiece. I've also heard good things about Dream Scenario.

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