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As long as he gets it all out of his system in the primary and votes for Biden in November. The primary is the proper place for that kind of thing, but pulling that stunt in the general is the same as voting for Trump.

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100% agree. Is Biden perfect? Hell no, not even close. Is he light-years better than the only other possibility? Absolutely, and we've got to make sure he wins because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

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Trump thanks you for your vote.

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No it's not. Biden is the only one who can stop Trump. If you don't vote for Biden, you're complicit in letting Trump in, just the same as if you voted for him directly. Third party tantrum votes and staying home don't absolve you.

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So you agree that neither of the two options will have any effect on making things better in Palestine, good. Since that's cleared up, the choice is simple, as Trump is objectively the worst option, so voting Biden is the only reasonable move in November.

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Nope, Biden and Trump are the only options. Neither of them will do shit for the Palestinians in terms of making things better. The only option is to vote strategically to keep the worst guy out, and that's Trump.

Anyone who does anything in the general besides voting for Biden bears responsibility if Trump wins. That's just a fact of the two party system we have.

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Doing that also lets Trump in. Actively standing in the way of a fascist takeover by Trump requires showing up for Biden at the polls.

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I'm sure all the LGBTQ+ folks, Muslims, and racial minorities of America who will be immeasurably harmed by another Trump presidency would disagree.

What an unconscionably privileged position to consider voting for Biden to stop Trump to be not with it.

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And people will be dying regardless of whether Biden stays in office or Trump takes over. It is an absolute fact that Trump will be immeasurably worse than Biden if he wins, and refusing to vote for Biden to keep him out of office because you're too proud to vote strategically is absolutely a privileged stance to take.

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You should seek the help of a mental healthcare professional if you're having thoughts of suicide.

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Neither Biden nor Trump will do anything about making Israel stop in Palestine, and Biden will be better than Trump overall as president. Refusing to vote for him is a privileged position which essentially throws gays, trans, Muslims, minorities, and the entire American democracy under the bus to satisfy your pride. It's time to grow up.

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Acting like a grown-up means voting strategically, especially when the other option is a fascist. Staying home to pout, or voting third party which amounts to the same thing, is an infantile position which reeks of "I got mine, fuck everyone else" privilege.

You might weather a second Trump term okay due to your privilege. Plenty of folks won't be so lucky, and if you refuse to vote for Biden in November, you're just as guilty as the MAGA conservatives who voted for Trump if he wins.

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The correct answer is 16. Multiplication and Division happen at the same level of priority, and are evaluated left-to-right.

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It is not ambiguous at all, there absolutely is one right answer, and it is 16.

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Inaccurate, this has nothing to do with the mnemonic PEMDAS, this has to do with the actual order of operations it tries to instill. That order of operations is not ambiguous, there is a correct way to solve simple equations like the one above, and there is one and only one correct answer to it. That answer is 16.

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No, 2( does not bind more tightly than ÷. 2( is simply 2×(..., and ÷ and × occur at the same level of priority. After resolving the addition in the parentheses, the remaining operations are resolved left to right.

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No, the fact that a good many people are incorrect about how math works does not entail that math is an open question. It's not, math has actual rules to its equations and an unambiguous right answer. In this case, that answer is 16.

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I'm well familiar with math and the rules by which it works. Those who persist in arguing the case here could save the rest of us the bother by admitting they were stumped by a simple gotcha equation and are embarrassed, rather than wasting everyone's time by insisting that math is nothing but a lawless, rules-free wasteland where the answer to an equation depends on your feelings at the time.

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Fortunately, the rules necessary to resolve the equation in this post are extremely elementary, so none of what you're referencing has any bearing whatever.

There are exactly three things to consider in here to determine priority: parentheses, multiplication/division, and addition. The addition happens first due to the parentheses, and the remaining is evaluated left-to-right. The only correct answer here is 16.

All your deflection from your embarrassment at misreading a simple equation doesn't detract from this.

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And there you've proven exactly what I've been saying all along. 2x works the way it does because there's a variable involved, and natural reading of that treats it as a single entity. There are no variables in the equation in the post, there are only definite numbers, parentheses, and simple mathematical operations. 8/2(2+2) is nothing more than 8/2×(2+2). There is nothing special about 2(..., this is not the equivalent of 2x.

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No, what I'm explaining to you is the facts behind what every calculator with any modicum of computing power will tell you, namely that 2(2+2) is identical to 2×(2+2).

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Yeah, kind of. The crappier calculator is the one generating the incorrect answer. Any calculator with any real level of oomph behind it can parse this correctly to get the correct answer, 16.

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The good calculator is the one using the processing power of the phone to handle the programming necessary to correctly interpret the order of operations and arrive at the correct answer, whereas the bad calculator - despite having no ads - is a cheap piece of trash unable to contain the necessary computational logic to arrive at the correct answer.

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No need. The fact that you're incapable of comprehending it at this point indicates that any further attempts to explain it to you are equally likely to fall on deaf ears.

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ITT: 15-year-old edgelords simping for Russia

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