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OurToothbrush ,

I thought the joke was the inherent homoeroticism of Glados

OurToothbrush ,

Yeah, that and the degradation and praise elements

OurToothbrush ,

Oh look ecofascism

OurToothbrush , (edited )

Name 5 scholarly works you've read on fascism, or 3 on ecofascism specifically.

In other words: I have a lot of knowledge about this shit. The overpopulation myth is tied to fascism at the hip. You've integrated fascist propaganda into your worldview if you think overpopulation is the issue.

OurToothbrush ,

You can just Google "overpopulation ecofascism" and the first few results in normal and scholar mode are pretty good (the former for well cited intros, the latter for more in depth stuff on the topic)

OurToothbrush ,

Ecofascism is a legit problem, people in the US would rather have unsustainable lifestyles than not commit genocide.

OurToothbrush ,

Probably just my tone, or felt unpleasant at the idea that they've integrated fascist ideas into their worldviews.

OurToothbrush ,

Nope! I'll check it out.

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But at least AKs are a symbol of liberation movements. US military equipment, not so much.

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which we’ve seen so clearly the past decade just loves having fascist states in its ranks.

Wait are you being sarcastic here? Lmao

OurToothbrush ,

You're thinking Emmitt Til and that wasn't because the white woman was afraid, it was because she was willing to go along with the white men.

OurToothbrush ,

Yes a big ass bear is clearly more dangerous

If it is a black bear, which 99 percent of the time it would be, nah, the man is more dangerous. Black bears are scaredy cats.

OurToothbrush ,

No, because humans hunt bears and bears will kill humans

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Large prey animals in general. I see a hippo im running

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I mean... on sight doesn't mean they're already chasing, the point is to avoid that

OurToothbrush ,

Yeah continue ww1, so fucking based

When people complaining about your side latch onto factions that they know nothing about it is kinda really funny

OurToothbrush ,

And socialist nations like the GDR were better on gay rights in the late 80s than capitalist nations are now.

And Cuba has the most lgbt equality of anywhere right now

And China is opening state sponsored trans Healthcare clinics, including for children

Meanwhile in the US if you're trans you can't live in half of the country and you're worried about getting hatecrimed in the other half. And you have pundits of the capitalist class calling you pedophiles and "the jews of gender"

Also, gay liberation movements in the imperial core were mostly led by communists, you can't give credit to capitalism for being forced into granting concessions.

OurToothbrush ,

You need to look at the referendum to maintain the soviet union before you say shit about imperialist Russia. Non-russian SSRs were most enthusiastic about keeping the USSR around.

OurToothbrush ,

Yes, we must have a middle ground between having parasites and not having parasites. Thank you enlightened centrist.

OurToothbrush ,

Meanwhile, the only criticism you launch at the Mensheviks is… They wanted to keep fighting the imperial powers?

Bwahahahaha yeah that's why Tsarist and Kerensky Russia was aligned with France and England

Bwahahahaha

At some point you gotta just come to the conclusion that you haven't read enough on this topic and pick up some books instead of speaking garbage.

Also "the only criticism" that's the fucking big criticism that got them overthrown, which you'd fucking know if you studied history.

OurToothbrush ,

Hey, remind me how that worked out in the end? Did the People’s Government get a seat at Versailles? No? Had to fight a war against fucking Poland first and then get even more people killed by Germany later?

And your argument is “the decision was unpopular,” not that it was wrong.

Wait are you out here arguing that Russia should have continue fighting ww1? Seriously? And that refusing to fight the war led to nazi Germany and their exterminationist war against the soviet union?

Bwahahahahahaha

OurToothbrush ,

But yes. It would have.

Remember this comment so you can cringe at it when you're less ignorant :)

OurToothbrush , (edited )

The one boycotted by 6 of the 15 territories?

That's the one, where Russians had less interest in the USSR than the participating territories.

Or the ones that followed in each that led to them declaring independence which in turn led to the collapse of the soviet union?

Sure, and not the presidential coup. Get real.

The baltics were 3 of those boycotting territories and we had similar referendums for independence which, I’m pretty sure, all got over 70% support.

And the Baltics are doing so much better now.

I'm reminded of a story of Lithuania charging holocaust survivors for fighting as partisans against the nazis in WW2. It happened in 2009. They've gotten more fascist since. Wonder what itd be like if the USSR was never overthrown.

OurToothbrush , (edited )

Yes, slightly improved metrics sure compensate for the systemic nazi rehabilitation /s

And for the overall lowering of living conditions across the former USSR /s

OurToothbrush ,

and that’s something you can objectively prove, lol.

Weren't you literally just claiming that if Russia stayed in the war the nazis wouldn't have happened?

Bwahahaha

The repeated Bolshevik genocides of Jewish people.

As someone who had jewish family which survived the holocaust, lol, wtf? The worst instance of antisemitism in the USSR was the doctor's plot, which wasn't a genocide.

I’ll not comment on your apparent belief that Nazism was some fated historical inevitability, which sure seems like something a Nazi would believe and not a Marxist.

Nazijacketing me for thinking that Russia staying in ww1 wouldn't have stopped the rise of nazism? Wow.

OurToothbrush ,

I do not believe so, no

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Another key difference is one is aimed at executives and businesses and the other is aimed at everyone

OurToothbrush , (edited )

I mean it is true to an extent, it is just treating consent as an absolute and not a spectrum. Power imbalances absolutely impact where that needle is.

I've had lots of sex like "yes please". I've had sex where I was like "ill probably enjoy enjoy this" or "I genuinely don't really care one way or another and it will please my partner" (who I'm not vulnerable to in a societally enforced way) and all of them would fit the binary of consensual but are at various points on the spectrum.

The last example is an illustrative example where it would clearly fall at different points on the spectrum if I was more or less dependent on/vulnerable to my partner.

Sex negative feminism had some points that were correct to some extent, sex negative and sex positive feminism both synthesized into a more sex neutral position for a reason.

OurToothbrush ,

Hey, the NSA would never behave like the Stasi!

https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/gay-liberation-behind-iron-curtain/#:~:text=In%201985%20the%20Stasi%20finally,final%20recommendation%20was%20entirely%20novel.

Don't you dare compare the two!

(Please read the link, it is necessary for the joke)

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Yw

OurToothbrush ,

There’s nothing stopping people in the lower classes from investing.

Bwahahahahaha

OurToothbrush ,

Hexbear thread dunking on this:

https://hexbear.net/post/2277150?scrollToComments=false

Highlights include

Funny how we constantly get told we support capitalist Russia, yet they never actually provide evidence for that.

I'm not surprised tho as lying about communists seems to be second nature to Western bootlickers

And

i love how that dude makes an absolutely ridiculous assumption, as i've never seen a "tankie" deny that current russia is reactionary as fuck, but since he's saying Bad Thing about The Tankies everyone just goes "hmm yea those tankies amirite? smh"

liberals are fucking idiots, they never have any idea of what they're actually talking about and just throw around concepts and categories with the level of understanding of a monkey playing with a power tool

And

"We support the Russian Federation's opposition to US imperialism. We oppose their reactionary government including the state suppression of lgbtq+ people, minority nationalities and ethnic groups, etc. Using these issues as cudgels for US/NATO imperialism hurts all people in Russia, including oppressed minorities, and undermines the progressive nature of those liberation struggles in that country."

"Smdh tankies are pro-russia homophobes"

OurToothbrush ,

They don't, you've fallen for anti-communist disinfo

OurToothbrush ,

Incredible self own

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*capitalism not crony capitalism

OurToothbrush ,

America is an endless expansionist that has illegally invaded multiple neighbours by force while calling it a “military exercise”.

Yes?

America has a semi dictator that gave themselves full unlimited power after being elected once and has since then meddled in every election in order to win

The US literally overthrew their democracy, and then when elections took place within a bourgeois 'democracy' interfered in those too. Russia post-overthrow of USSR could never have become a democracy, the US wouldn't have allowed it.

OurToothbrush ,

the war and major imperialism was done a long time ago.

This is literally a myth that papers over their current warmongering and imperialism

OurToothbrush ,

I for one wouldn't have used unrest as a chance to do a coup. But if I did, I wouldn't have planned who to install in what positions over an unsecure line.

And so, Ukraine would have stayed a democracy that is more economically aligned with Russia, and Russia wouldn't have invaded.

I for one, wouldn't have spent 40 years trying to overthrow a proletarian democracy, eventually succeeding in sponsoring a coup.

So Ukraine and Russia wouldn't be right wing nationalist nations and would instead be part of a progressive federation.

OurToothbrush ,

It is literally from anti-colonial theory lmao

OurToothbrush ,

Yes, Israel shouldn't be allowed to exist. Israel is an affront to and attack on all Jews, perpetrated by Christian zionists, including Nazi Germany.

There should be a secular democracy without a tiered citizenship system that respects the rights of local jews, Muslims, and Christians, as much as it respects the rights of European immigrants.

OurToothbrush ,

Wait, is Joe Biden promising to kill Trump if elected? Shit, why didn't you say so?

OurToothbrush ,

I don’t agree with what’s happening in Israel/Palestine either, but I’m more concerned at how often it’s being used as this “trump card” to lower Biden to Trump’s level. It’s still not remotely close.

(Holds up mirror)

OurToothbrush ,

You're more concerned with how this will affect Biden than the actual genocide itself? That's what I'm pointing out you saying in your comment.

OurToothbrush ,

You're right, that is terrible, Biden isn't so uncouth while fully materially supporting the genocide.

OurToothbrush ,

You literally didn't read the full article did you

like most of the stuff that people are complaining about, it stated with Trump

Oh, well if it just started under Trump, that's fine then. As long as Trump did it first, it is okay if Biden continues doing it.

OurToothbrush , (edited )

Biden just visited the border with a Trump to talk about being tough on immigration.

Hell, he literally has executive authority over ICE, and yet ICE is still up to their gestapo bullshit.

I think Biden cares more about not letting states walk over his domain of power than he does about immigrants. This was a friendly with segregationists, still currently opposes right to abortion, fossil who is in the process of enabling genocide. I dont know why you'd think he gives 2 shits about treating immigrants like the human beings they are and not as vermin.

OurToothbrush ,

Why do you assume I don’t know these ideas just because I don’t agree with you?

Because you straight up said you've avoided looking into it in detail, your previous words:

I have read some, but I don’t need to read deep republican theory to see why their ideas are fundamentally wrong any more than I need to “read theory” to see fundamental issues with “Marxist” positions.

Also because from what I've read, you take a fundamentally reformist position which Marx painstakingly disproved the viability of over 150 years ago. If you've read capital to completion, or hell, just understood some of their short texts very well and extrapolated things yourself, you'd know a reformist position is unviable, and even if it were viable, would be magnitudes more violent than the worst mistakes and excesses of any ML movement.

I disagree fundamentally with the methods even if our compassion may be in common.

What methods do you disagree were inappropriate for the situations they occurred in? Because marxist leninists will probably agree that there was a mistake there to learn from, or will point out factors that might you might be uniformed or misinformed about.

OurToothbrush ,

I looked into it in detail enough to know what I need to know. I also didn’t read Mein Kampf, should I read that before deciding I don’t agree with fascism or is it enough to know that fascism fundamentally harms people and it doesn’t matter what Mein Kampf says?

Wait, you don't want to understand the ideology that saved the world from German fascism, the ideology that supported and enabled liberation movements worldwide, the ideology that took Russia from a feudal backwater to space in 40 years, that advanced woman's rights in that time frame past women's rights in modern western countries? Why don't you want to understand the ideology of the most lgbt friendly government in the world, Cuba? Why don't you want to understand the ideology of countries that were historically much less violent than bourgeois 'democracies'?

Disproved to you maybe, these are not facts. The bible proves things to Christians, they are wrong too.

This is a flawed analogy because the Bible expects you to take things on faith, and Marx expects to have to thoroughly defend his position as it is a position contrary to the interests of capital. i love how you're arguing "well I'm not convinced" while refusing to even engage with basic ideas.

Some real taught to be afraid of shadows shit if you ask me.

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