SorteKanin

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

It’s meant to illustrate a change and it does so perfectly fine

Define "perfectly fine". It is clearly exaggerating the change. At a glance it looks more like a 5 times increase, not a 30% increase.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

I'm not sure this really has potential to kick off outside of niche wikis. But maybe that's still good enough.

Though I hope this isn't taking too much of your time from Lemmy development! :)

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

As another admin of a much smaller instance, I also feel grateful to all the mentioned groups, and especially the admins of the larger instances, whose experience I can often piggy-back on and without which, running a smaller instance as a single admin would be much more difficult :)

I'd also like to remind everyone that Lemmy does not equal the Fediverse, which is a misconception I feel like I see constantly here. When you say "I am on Lemmy" or things along those lines, you are conflating the Fediverse with the software you are using to access the Fediverse. This is kind of like saying that you are on Firefox instead of on the internet. Firefox is just your browser that you use to access the internet.

Likewise, Lemmy is just your "Fediverse browser" and there are other alternatives. And just like we shouldn't judge people whether they use lemmy.world or lemm.ee or whatever other instance, we shouldn't judge people on whether they use Lemmy or Kbin or Mastodon. Different people like different things and having a choice about what software to use is the greatest feature of the Fediverse. You have a choice of software, of instance, of admins and even of mods.

I see a lot of people saying things would be better if we just change Lemmy to something else (like Sublinks, or any of the other alternatives). But remember that it's still just the Fediverse you are connecting to. You are not on Lemmy, you are on the Fediverse. And we're all on it together (well more or less, barring defederation...).

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Heard where? I heard that Beehaw is considering not using Lemmy, but they've said that for a long time without changing still. But maybe they will. But it's all up to them and they can control their instance how they like :)

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Thank you for all the work you do!

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Text data is like practically 0 compared to all the rest of the data (i.e. images for instance).

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

And if you think Lemmy is any different, guess again

Lemmy is different, in that the data is not being sold to anyone. Instead, the data is available to anyone.

It's kind of like open source software. Nobody can buy it, cause it's open and free to be used by anyone. Nobody profits off of it more than anyone else - nobody has an advantage over anyone else.

Open source levels the playing field by making useful code available to everyone. You can think of comments and posts on the Fediverse in the same way - nobody can buy that data, because it's open and free to be used by anyone. Nobody profits off of it more than anyone else and nobody has an advantage over anyone else (after all, everyone has access to the same data).

The only problem is if you're okay with your data being out there and available in this way... but if you're not, you probably shouldn't be on the internet at all.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

At its heart, the DMA requires more interoperability than ever, making it harder for gatekeepers to favor their own services or block other businesses from reaching consumers on their platforms.

Wow Google/Apple/etc. will actually have to compete instead of just having a de facto monopoly? But how could they ever earn money under such conditions /s

SorteKanin , 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

You can't delete any text in comments or posts either - or at least not reliably, as any federated instance could choose to ignore deletions.

You should basically consider what you write or post here public, and probably public for good. But here's the thing - same goes for the entire rest of the Internet as well, basically.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

I mean you could say the same thing about reddit - anyone could scrape reddit and save comments and stuff, even if you later delete them.

If someone can see something on their computer, they can save it and you won't be able to take it away. I mean... it's just how the internet works.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

I mean any social media is public - what do you mean reddit chose to make it public? It's not like they could make it private, then you won't see any comments or posts from anyone else or what? Not sure what that even would mean.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

A rogue instance can very easily just hijack all sorts of federated content and force it into a certain state as desired.

I'm really not sure what you mean by this, can you elaborate?

There is not really any mechanism for tracking source authority for federated updates, and there are definitely already signs that this is getting exploited to promote certain content and fuck with vote totals IMO.

I'm not sure what you mean by "not any mechanism for tracking source authority". Admins on their own instance are in control of what happens to the content and they'll know if another site edits content or whatever as that is sent as requests in ActivityPub.

What are the signs you're referring to?

SorteKanin , 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

If there is abuse from a mod or an admin, you go somewhere else - either join another similar community or server or make your own.

Or in the case of abuse from mods, report them to admins (assuming admins are reasonable).

Remember, this isn't reddit. You don't have to live with the mods or admins, you can just stop going to that instance/community and find somewhere else.

Also ultimately being able to view votes is a way to combat abuse, as you can spot people who just down vote someone else constantly.

EDIT: Honestly confused about the down votes, someone would care to elaborate? :)

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

- @NineMileTower, 2024

Never forget

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Those images are likely to be cleaned up in a future update though.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

adding such a highly expected piece of functionality like deleting something you uploaded should probably be more highly prioritized.

Let's be clear that this problem has nothing to do with Lemmy or the Lemmy devs. This is not a problem of prioritisation and it is not something that can just be fixed.

This is a problem of ActivityPub and the nature of federated services. There is just no way you force a federated server to delete something. So while most servers are well behaved, others might not be. Such servers could be defederated but you need to detect such bad behaviour first.

The problem is not with Lemmy, it's the whole Fediverse and ultimately also the Internet that works like this.

(the problem of a user uploading a photo and never posting it anywhere and wanting that to be deleted should be fixable though)

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

You cannot do that, no. Edits are authenticated in the sense that the request must come from the instance of the user.

Your admin could in principle send such a request for you. But then you're talking about a malicious admin and then all bets are off. Obviously admins are in full control of everything on their own instance, including being able to edit their own users stuff. Not that any reasonable admin would do that.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

GDPR does not depend on business size, there are just a few stricter requirements when you have more than 250 employees. But most of the GDPR still applies to my knowledge.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

That's not true, images are also copied over. This is also for efficiency reasons and to spread the load of the image out to the servers. Sometimes you'll see images not being copied to your own instance, but that might be because your instance has a lower image size limit than the instance it was uploaded to originally.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Not true, images are federated. Sometimes they are not copied if your instance has a lower image size limit than the instance the image came from (if the image is too large), but generally images are copied between instances.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

legally binding contract

Maybe, but consider that federated servers may be located in entirely different legal jurisdictions, so this might be hard to create, let alone enforce.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

You have to fight Rust a lot to build anything complex

nutomic, one of the main Lemmy devs, didn't know Rust before he started working on Lemmy. He just started working on Lemmy and learned Rust in the process. The difficulty of Rust is exaggerated.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

You can consider almost anything publicly posted to Lemmy the internet as permanent

FTFY

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

You can configure the maximum size of image you will federate. You could set it to essentially 0 and you will store like no images. Downside is you will have to fetch images from other instances, whose servers may not be close to you.

For reference, Feddit.dk has a 5MB image limit. My storage is only about ~60 GB

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Aah the embedded ones in comments? Yes to my knowledge those aren't federated. But pictures posted as posts will be federated.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Seems that one of the problems with regards to this post has been recently fixed and will be included in the next release :)

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/pull/2385

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

I really disagree, I think Rust's excellent error handling and reliability is paramount to any software project and it's very useful for web apps as well. Besides, for a web app you rarely need to go for any of those things you mentioned (i.e. Arcs and mutexes and such).

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

... What's the big difference? They failed to add it cause they forgot, no?

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

That makes sense, I can see where the confusion could come from.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

To be clear, all major instances are well behaved and things are deleted once requested. But there's no guarantee that there is not some malicious instance out there that intentionally keeps stuff. Also sometimes communication between instances just goes wrong.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Admins can definitely delete photos from their own instance. The problem is deleting it from all instances; that is hard.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

doing so as an admin is really convoluted

It's not super straight forward, that's true. But it's not that hard I would say. But I'm a professional software engineer, I dunno if all admins find it as easy.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

This is just a feature request to do it via the web interface, you can still do it manually on the server without too much effort.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

“Higher education must return to its essential foundations of academic integrity and the pursuit of knowledge instead of being corrupted by destructive ideologies,” Florida’s commissioner of education, Manny Diaz Jr, said. The actions, he added, would ensure taxpayer money won’t be spent on DEI and “radical indoctrination that promotes division in our society”.

This is coming from a commissioner of education? Wow I am glad I don't live in the US.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

I dunno... The idea might work for some instances perhaps. But this is kind of what StackOverflow has done for a long time and that site isn't exactly known for being super welcoming to new users.

It would also make it really inconvenient to create new accounts (for example when moving instances).

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

Well if you want to make a new account, for whatever reason, your whole point score resets. Or if you want to move instances, it also resets. That seems inconvenient.

I also don't really think this necessarily needs to have anything to do with the Fediverse, in the sense that ActivityPub doesn't need to support this, I think. An AP server can provide this functionality and use the existing protocol I think.

What I'm saying is, this feature could be added as an option to existing Fediverse software (like Lemmy or Mastodon or whatever) without having all other Fediverse software adjust their use of the protocol. So perhaps it could be experiemented with and we could see how it goes. Unless I'm misunderstanding the proposal somehow.

SorteKanin , 2 months ago

I don't really agree that the reddit moderation style sucks. If admins keep a close eye on mods to ensure there's not too much power tripping and such, I think it's a pretty good system. If you nurture it well, it can be very good.

Of course reddit has done everything it can to screw mods over for a while, so yea, not well nurtured there. But the Fediverse can do better.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

GitHub repositories can also have "Discussions" which are separate from issues. There's also a project concept on GitHub. I think you could just use what GitHub already has built in.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

Great stuff, great initiative by Mozilla to being this to light!

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

They don't where I live, though they aren't cheap. But within reach for most people that needs one I'd say.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

I know we're probably far from that but damn I I just want a robot to do the dishes. That would honestly be valuable and I'd be willing to pay a lot for it.

Problem is this robot will probably be on some subscription and soon with ads.

"Hey Robot please do the dishes"

"Sure - but have you considered that you'd get cleaner dishes if you bought this detergent?"

If I could buy it once and own it though, that'd be great.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

If a business was actually losing money for 20 years straight then how does it continue to grow?

It's because it keeps getting funded by venture capitalists, as far as I understand. Keeping it afloat because they believe it will eventually bring a return on that investment.

I feel like investments used to be a reasonable thing. Like some rich fella or a fund organization or something invested in a thing and then a little later (couple years at most I would say) it's profitable and can start paying back the investment (which was essentially a loan).

Now it's become more and more pyramid-scheme-esque. You start with a small funding round to get a bit of growth but you still grow faster than profits can keep up with. Then you get a slightly bigger funding round but you also grow slightly faster. Then you repeat this for 20 years and then you have Reddit's situation I suppose.

But it seems crazy. Why is there so much money in the world being spent for this potential return? I get it, investments do enable innovation and new businesses and all that. That's the supposed benefit of capitalism. But it's starting to feel ridiculous when it goes on for so long without ever producing a surplus of value.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

Surely most of it is already on the Internet archive?

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

Kind of cute but also kind of sad. Love is sometimes also a leap of faith and trust. It seems like they never really trusted each other, or themselves, to still love each other.

Personally I think marriage is not about force, but about trust. It's a confession of trust in your partner.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

Just giving my perspective m8. You're free to find it only cute and wholesome - your opinion is as valid as mine.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

The social one. I'm an atheist.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

That's one way to look at love, but I don't look at it like that.

SorteKanin , 3 months ago

It is alright and thanks for clarifying - your first comment made it seem like my view was unreasonable somehow.