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Damn, am I just getting old or did anyone else have to google what "IOW" stood for?

Any control that requires you to take your eye off the road for a split second just to confirm that you even activated it, is dangerous. Then multiply that by each control they've moved to touch screen. So dumb.

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If I had read this comment even just a decade ago, I'd have thought it was clearly satire.

But in 2024? Nope.

Thanks capitalism!

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Lol on Android that same shortcut takes a screenshot hahahaha... I don't know why that's so funny to me.

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Absolutely. You only need to find it once... And another thing, you can keep your finger on it and press it as many times as needed and know whether or not your press registered because guess what: it always does when you press it down.

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Lol as someone who touch types but sometimes has to look down for F-key locations and which symbols are attached to which numbers, this would drive me mad.

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i think ie looks weird no matter how you present it

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Sounds great. But perhaps you have forgotten the existence of the patriarchy? Basically the very thing keeping double standards like that in place.

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You know why feminism has "waves," right? Because it doesn't fucking stick.

You make it sound so simple.

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FYI there's no such thing as "Ethereum 2." It's just called "Ethereum."

And you're right, every time these mainstream articles mention the power consumption of crypto, they never mention ETH. Weird.

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Not to mention the whole design flaw that it's meant to be completely private/anonymous but ironically is one of the most public and traceable things ever created.

Bitcoin was never meant to be that, people were/are just idiots.

Monero on the other hand... Something made possible because Bitcoin came first.

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Which is why focusing on Bitcoin is a red herring. The power consumption issue with crypto was solved a long time ago, and has now shown for years that it's viable on a massive scale (ETH). People need to stop acting like Proof of Work is all that exists.

So much for nuance. This place is just like reddit: black and white.

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Yeah and look at how much things have changed since then... Why throw the entire concept of creating a digital currency/ledger? Why be so against it at the core? It's one thing to be against Bitcoin, or proof-of-work, or literally any other current method of digital currency, but why dismiss the concept outright as some kind of old-timey dog & pony show who will be another lesson we learn the hard way?

Sounds like Luddite thinking to me. Sounds like fear of new technology.

How many literally countless attempts at human flight were there, many that were awful, stupid ideas, before we finally figured out the best way to do it?

Or maybe we should have just given up on the idea of air travel altogether...

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Yeah, and it's easy to tell who are the bitter people who took a known gamble and lost. Gotta blame someone/something.

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Bitcoin doesn't need to figure anything out, alternatives that cost essentially 0 energy in comparison already exist on a massive scale.

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No. If a crypto were adopted at that scale, it wouldn't be proof-of-work, so there would be no "miners" and (comparatively) no energy consumption whatsoever.

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And fiat currency isn't how...? It's just backed by a central bank/authority. That's the only thing that gives it value.

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Well get used to it because the US Supreme Court is about to (probably) do away with Chevron deference.

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It literally gives you a recipe for one

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"effectively made up verse" LOL

Ah ok, so are you the arbiter of which stories in the Bible are literal, and which aren't? Because that story seemed very fucking literal.

Anyway, this can't be the first time you've encountered a contradiction in the text of your holy book (assuming you've even read it), so I'm sure you've already got some pretty effective ways of ignoring the cognitive dissonance inherent in your worldview... So go ahead and have fun with that I guess.

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How does this make her "actions wrong"? Because you disagree?

Yes, it's legal for him to do what he's doing, but it is also legal (and completely reasonable) for Swift to challenge that right because she fears for her safety. This is literally what our legal system is for.

There are a lot of insane people out there (and most of them tracking Swift's plane at this moment are right wing psychopaths that wish her harm). I really can't fucking blame her for wanting to do something about it.

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Do you have a list of people that you're cross-checking to make sure they're the same? Because you know how the internet works right? Those were likely not the same people.

In my opinion, they both have the right to challenge this, so there's nothing wrong with her doing that. Second, conservatives are currently foaming at the mouth to do harm to this woman, so I really cannot blame her for feeling unsafe. Musk is just a crybaby.

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Yeah no shit. They're terrified of her, and her influence over young people.

The GOP knows that their only viable strategy is to get fewer people to vote, and the easiest way to do that is to disenfranchise young voters. So they see Taylor as a direct threat to their only means of validly winning an election.

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So you think it’s perfectly moral for the ultra wealthy to abuse the legal system to threaten and bully random people into submission because they are ruining the billionaires image?

Lol yeah bud, that's what I said.

Dude, I understand it's public information. I understand that current law (probably rightfully) allows air traffic to be tracked, including private jets.

I was simply doing something that you're clearly incapable of, and empathizing (you remember empathy right?)
with her position. A position that is markedly different than Musk's, given that she receives a constant stream of legitimate death threats from people known to be violent; she has valid reason to fear for her life right now. I think I would probably do similar in such a situation.

I don't think it's "wrong" for her to seek to do what she can to protect herself, and that includes this.

The argument that "what they're doing is legal" is pretty stupid too... I'm not even saying that I disagree that it should be legal, but how do you think laws change? The boundaries of them get tested in courts. This is not an abuse of the legal system, this is using it as intended.

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Lmao swift stans are actually neurotic.

FYI (because apparently this needs to be said), I've never once purposefully listened to a Taylor Swift song, and besides maybe two, I couldn't even tell you if a pop song currently playing is her or not. That's how little I care about this person's art/music. My feelings toward her can be described as, at most, ambivalent. I'm definitely neurotic though, but that's unrelated to this subject.

All I'm doing is empathizing with another human being. Billionaires might be (for the most part, though I'm not sure I can imagine a more ethical way to become one than how she has) awful people, but they're still people and they deserve basic human rights such as: not being in 24/7 fear for the lives of you and your loved ones because fascists are mad that she told young people to vote.

I'm not even advocating for taking down the site or making the info no longer publicly available. I'm literally just putting myself in her shoes and rationalizing why she did what she did and understanding that I might have done the same.

We seem to be having two completely different conversations here, which I guess I shouldn't be surprised about given that you clearly can't comprehend nuance. Your clear hatred for this woman is clouding your ability to be a decent human. Do better.

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I would bet my next paycheck that Taylor Swift gets at least one order of magnitude more death threats on a daily basis than Elon Musk. At least.

Let's just say there are certain demographics that tend to lash out in that manner, and they seem to overlap quite a bit with Musk fans.

And yeah dude, I get it. They're billionaires, it's hard to empathize. I agree to a point that they should shut the fuck up and just wipe their tears away with $100 bills. But in this case, when we're talking about legitimate threats against her life constantly, by people who have shown to be very capable of carrying out such threats, then I can start to see why she is doing what she's doing. Just because she's got money doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to live a life free from that kind of fear.

That's all.

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Lol yeah dude that's definitely "all you were saying". You're being such a reasonable interlocutor 🙄

She's not harassing an innocent student. I don't think it really matters to her who created it. She is just doing the one thing she can do that would maybe give her a fraction of a feeling of security back into her life. Something that I bet most of us, including you, would do. A student being involved is irrelevant.

And yeah, I do empathize with that guy as well. Assuming they didn't create the app specifically for these types of people to be able to harass and endanger her more easily. Which he may have, I don't really know all the details.

Isn't that crazy? Empathizing with both people in a situation? Wild right?

Also, this pretending that it's about giving her shit because of the environmental impact, give me a fucking break. Let's not waste everyone's time with that bullshit. Conservatives only "believe" in climate change, when they can use it as a cudgel against someone they feel threatened by. Actually a textbook fascist move (this isn't a joke, it really is).

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It's not about it being public information. There's tons of shit that's "public information," and available to get, but there are steps that need to be taken to get it. Some more steps than others. Kind of like a soft "paywall" of sorts (minus the pay) that makes it so the internet isn't just inundated with data constantly. And sometimes, get this, you can even be denied requests for information that's "publicly available" if, for example, t's deemed that you shouldn't have it for whatever reason. But I digress...

Just because something is "publicly available information" doesn't mean it just gets broadcasted all over the internet to anyone with a Facebook account that the algorithm knows is a hateful conservative.

It's a joke that people are pretending that this is about free speech or something, and not about making it easier to constantly harass and threaten.

It's about it being targeted at one specific person, and it's about the people who are doing the targeting (which differentiates it from the Musk situation). No, not the college student who made the app, before you go there to try to undercut this argument. I'm not talking about him.

I'm talking about the people who would use a tool, that they found in their far right/conservative/republican/fascist echo chamber bubble to threaten rape and death to another human being and their loved ones.

And if it is, hpw is she going to stop them from dping the neglegable research themselves

This is kind of the crux of it, isn't it? These people are being whipped into a frenzy by whatever hate-media they consume, and without a Fox News or Tucker Carlson or whomever else to steer that frenzy toward Taylor Swift and this app, then that info would have remained "public knowledge" behind a simple search as it probably should be.

The college kid who made the app is just a tool (witting or not).

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It doesn't matter how easy the search is to you or I... The people who have found this tool (or made it, I don't know. Don't want to accuse the student of anything untoward) are distributing it to people who would have otherwise:

  1. never even knew such a possibility exists,

  2. had no fucking idea how to even begin finding that information themselves regardless of how simple it may seem to you and I, and,,

  3. not have even had the idea to use the information that way in the first place.

This is basic transparency on the part of the FAA. They disseminate this information to keep track of things, and for research purposes. It was never intended to be used in this way.

In fact, if anything significant comes out of this, it would be to limit what info the FAA makes public (and it will skew toward private jets of course). So in the long run this will probably have the opposite effect of what you want.

prole ,
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She’s not harassing an innocent student.

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I do empathize with that guy as well

are contradictory statements

No they're not.

Empathizing with the guy who programmed it: An unprovoked, targeted campaign of rape threats, death threats and harassment (and the media/legal storm that follows) against another person, all because of some little thing you coded for fun in your free time (again, giving benefit of the doubt)? And then being dragged into all of this? Yeah, I empathize like a motherfucker .

You dont think there are any leftists out here criticising the billionaire for being one the most directly polluting people on the planet?

No, I think the only people who give a shit about this are right wing concern trolls.

Based on the way you've been spelling words, it would seem you're not actually from the US. Perhaps if you lived here, you would understand the real and actual danger this kind of stochastic terrorism as we're seeing it every single day. Taylor Swift is a figure who has just recently become a major target of hate and actual legitimate death/rape threats from the right because she encouraged young people to vote (no, I wish I was kidding). I don't think she even endorsed a candidate.

The GOP is so terrified of her; this is a half-assed, stochastic call to violence against a young woman who has done nothing, and this tool has gone way far beyond basic "FAA transparency," and into tool to target and potentially ruin the lives of people who do not deserve it.

(In case anyone didn't see my previous comment: not only am I not a Taylor Swift fan, I don't think I could name more than one or two songs. And if a song of hers came on the radio, I wouldn't be able to know if it was her or not)

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Musk isn't receiving credible rape and death threats at nearly the level of Swift (if he is at all, let's be real) by people who are known for following through on such threats.

Look, I even empathize a little with Musk regarding that specific situation. If I were in his shoes, I also wouldn't want an app like that to exist. I don't think his situation warrants any kind of action to stop it because it's really just an inconvenience for him. And he knew that it's just an inconvenience, so how he handled himself from day to day didn't really change.

For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche.

To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

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Lol it's funny how quickly this place became reddit. There were maybe three weeks or so there where people here actually understood and cared about nuance...

prole ,
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Then go ahead and garnish it from George Soros

prole ,
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I imagine plate armor is uncomfortable as fuck... Capes are dope though, but I can imagine them getting caught in various things causing fatal accidents (escalators, revolving doors, moving trains, etc.)

prole ,
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Ah yes that was the key info I was missing as well.

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There's that person going around impersonating Margot Robbie. At least there was, I haven't seen them in a while.

People seemed to love it, and most seemed to believe it was actually her. When I called them out (because it's really fucking weird), they kind of said it was just in good fun. I'm sure she'd agree 🙄

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it was definitely meant as a joke, it just wasn't funny. It's like saying those half-assed "characters" in Times Square are funny when in reality they're just a nuisance.

prole ,
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Lol yeah "most people" definitely do not play competitive multiplayer games. Are the other children in your friend group literally the only other humans you've ever met?

prole ,
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Nah, I switched to Linux last year and it cost me $0. No new hardware needed. So not a good metaphor.

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Are iPhones free now?

Because AI and Crypto use so much electricity, what if a law was made that they had to power it with green energy?

Something on the lines of if your company facility is using over X amount of energy the majority of that has to be from a green source such as solar power. What would happen and is this feasible or am I totally thinking about this wrong...

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Acting like 2000 average houses is a lot of power consumption for a cryptocurrency with such an unimaginably high market cap... That's basically a rounding error.

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Where did I say I was disagreeing with you, mate?

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Just a PSA that the second biggest cryptocurrency by market cap (ETH) is no longer proof of work, and in the process, reduced their power consumption by ~98%.

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Oof. The syllable count... Well I guess they're not paying you to be a poet.

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I would consider the negatives to be "the original" over the first photo that was printed using them.

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Really didn't take long for this site (maybe just this instance?) to turn into another reddit. A cesspool of astroturfing and proud ignorance. Either a complete inability to think critically, or just brain rot, in this case.

It seems like there are just certain people who are dead set on ruining any space on the internet that still exists for people without brain rot. Like they know they're lowering the overall quality of discussion, and instead of doing better, they lean into it. If they can't enjoy themselves, then nobody can.

Just one more extension of their childish, petulant demeanor. It's exactly why over 70 million people voted for a traitorous, demented man child; they see themselves in him.

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Inb4 "Well that's not his point" -- yes it is; he's just trying to pretend to be reasonable to get his foot in the door.

Maybe it's just this particular instance, but lately my Lemmy feed has been full of comments doing exactly this. To the point where it's ruining my experience. Which seems to be the goal.

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Just stop. Stop trying to repackage stupid, boring conspiracy bullshit by couching it in faux-philosophy and five dollar words.

Nobody with more than an 8th grade education is falling for the "This sounds smart and I see big words, therefore the person who wrote it must be smarter than me and know what they're talking about" bit.

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I didn't insult you

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