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absentbird ,

So would they count as dependents for tax purposes?

SuddenlyBlowGreen ,

Thank a christian for this.

Daft_ish ,

Why the fuck should we ever have to ask a judge this? Hey judge why don't you tell us how we cure cancer? Judge, judge, what is dark matter? Please, you are the ultimate authority on all things!

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well get used to it because the US Supreme Court is about to (probably) do away with Chevron deference.

nymwit ,

It's stupid but the article says why:

In the Alabama case, a hospital patient wandered through an unlocked door, removed frozen, preserved embryos from subzero storage and, suffering an ice burn, dropped the embryos, destroying them. Affected IVF patients filed wrongful-death lawsuits against the IVF clinic under the state's Wrongful Death of a Minor Act. The case was initially dismissed in a lower court, which ruled the embryos did not meet the definition of a child. But the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that "it applies to all children, born and unborn, without limitation." In a concurring opinion, Chief Justice Tom Parker cited his religious beliefs and quoted the Bible to support the stance.

Daft_ish ,

I know why the courts would ask but in general this is something a single judge has no authority on. The idea that a single person gets to define what "life" is absurdity. We have army's of scholars following strict rules of logic, ethics, and are backed by science. Their consensus is more compatible with human society than some dusty book.

nymwit ,

Absurdity indeed!

Skates ,

A group of Alabama residents decide to rob a bank. They put on their ski masks, grab their guns, run in, yell for everyone to get down and they start looking for the vault. They ransack every office, but all they find are some fancy coolers. Tired from the search and hot from wearing ski masks in Alabama, they open one of them up to find a bunch of cool refreshing yogurt. They drink it, cool off a bit, and then they go looking for the manager. They find this nice looking guy in a suit and tie:

"Hey, are you the manager of this bank?", they yell, pointing a gun at his face.

"Yes sir, I am", the guy is shaking and scared, but tries to keep calm.

"Take us to your vault, right fucking now!"

"Vault? Sir this is a sperm bank"

velvetThunder ,

Cannibalism is getting trendy again

Sensitivezombie ,

Someone should sue Alabama for keeping 'children' in a frozen state.

Corkyskog ,

Monkey paw. "You're absolutely right, these eggs need to be implanted into women right away. Oh look right here, we have a whole prison population of slaves"

Noel_Skum ,

Alabama? More like Talibana, a’ight? Being ruled by religious extremists - in the 21st (ce) century - blows my mind. Are people still that backwards? Apparently, yes. Nothing wrong with a bit of private faith in the sky man if it helps you in life… but to be a fundamentalist is unforgivable.

dutchkimble ,

Yes, and I'm the Queen of France

Facebones ,

Every woman with a frozen embryo.

Get those child tax credits.

Don't have frozen embryos? Freeze some

Get those child tax credits

TellusChaosovich ,

That is not legal. They have made embryos children when looking for people to put in jail, and not children when looking to give out benefits. Very convenient for the state budget!

whoisearth ,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

Women of America. Get a freezer. Freeze your eggs and transport them home. On all future taxes claim them as dependents in perpetuity. Fuck these asshats. Game the system and make bank!

Bitflip ,

Does this mean I can claim my sperm as a dependent on my taxes?

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

"What's all this stuff in the freezer!?!"

TheFriar ,

“Sperm.”

SendMePhotos ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6a4672d9-efc7-4a90-9cbb-ffa787fad92b.webm

sturmblast ,

Christians are such fucking idiots.

Chakravanti ,

Excuse me but I've never met a xtian that fucking intelligent.

BaardFigur ,

And muslims are even worse

rambaroo ,

Muslims don't believe that life starts at conception. So no, on this topic they are not as idiotic as Christians.

BaardFigur ,

No, they just believe in violence and rioting (https://lemmy.world/comment/7736288). Hating jews, and no rights for women. Name one stable and free majority muslim country.

rambaroo ,

Turkey and Kazakhstan. And this is just racist bs. Not all Muslims hate Jews or have regressive views. Not to mention this is all off topic, it's Christians who are trying to destroy women's rights in America not Muslims

BaardFigur , (edited )

Turkey is a hybrid regime, scoring rather low on the democracy index (https://freedomhouse.org/country/turkey/freedom-world/2023), with aggressive retoric towards Greece, Cyprus and Armenia. Making unreasonable demands towards Sweden in return for NATO membership. Non-muslims are discriminated against, and they're turning churches into mosques. I expected Turkey to be proposed, but Turkey is not a good example, even though it's "less bad" than other options.

Maybe christians are the problem in America, but in most west European countries, muslims are the ones causing issues. Racist bs? A religion isn't a race. I wasn't the one starting to hate on religion, it was another guy hating on Christianity. Remember?

Kazakhstan: Not great either https://freedomhouse.org/country/kazakhstan/nations-transit/2023

rambaroo ,

Turkey isn't much worse than countries like Hungary or Poland when it comes to democracy. And Kazakhstan is in the middle of democratic reform

Also I like how you ignored the rest of my comment. But not surprised

Edit: and people were shitting on Christianity because Christians have huge amounts of power in the US. Far more than Muslims do in any western country. It's Christians trying to destroy secular rights in the West. You brought up Muslims for no reason other than to deflect

BaardFigur ,

Setting the bar low with Orbanistan I see (which is still more democratic than Turkey btw).

Poland isn't doing any worse than USA, and is straight up silly comparing it to Turkey, especially after their last election, replacing the PiS Prime Minister.

hamsterkill ,

Albania? Kosovo? Indonesia?

BaardFigur ,

Yeah, those are not that stable. Beats the Middle East though.

sturmblast ,

Simple minded fool.

BaardFigur ,

These guys are simple minded fools, yeah

WraithGear ,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t recall anyone asking who is worse.

ShellMonkey ,
@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

Just wait until everyone on the state gets IVF treatments but never implants them, dozens of dependants claimed on their tax forms for free!

marth_21 ,

Wait, if I move there, as a man, can I claim millions of dependents? I mean they're just unborn, they count right?

ShellMonkey ,
@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

Well you'd need a partner to have a viable embryo, but maybe you could adopt some freezer babies?

Anise ,

What about all of someone's future unborn grandchildren and great grandchildren and great great grandchildren? Public policy now requires fortune telling to see what deductions one is eligible for based on future events?

sit_up_straight ,
@sit_up_straight@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

In the Alabama case, a hospital patient wandered through an unlocked door, removed frozen, preserved embryos from subzero storage and, suffering an ice burn, dropped the embryos, destroying them. Affected IVF patients filed wrongful-death lawsuits against the IVF clinic under the state's Wrongful Death of a Minor Act. The case was initially dismissed in a lower court, which ruled the embryos did not meet the definition of a child. But the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that "it applies to all children, born and unborn, without limitation." In a concurring opinion, Chief Justice Tom Parker cited his religious beliefs and quoted the Bible to support the stance.

absolutely wild case

lauha ,

Thus every unfertilized menstruation is a death

Every fap is a murder of millions

GreatAlbatross ,
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

Every sperm is sacred.

FrankTheHealer ,

Why the fuck is he allowed to quote the Bible to support his stance.

Ffs America

NocturnalEngineer ,

It's as though they took "The Handmaid's Tale" as a blueprint.

sacredfire ,

I heard this somewhere: “You’re in an IVF clinic. It’s on fire and you enter a burning room. On a table is a large cooler with 5 thousand fertilized eggs, and there’s also a crying, injured five-year-old girl in the room. Which one do you save? You can only save one.” The answer for most people is obviously the 5 year old and it’s not a hard choice.

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Sing it with me...

🎵 Every sperm is... 🎵

FollyDolly ,
@FollyDolly@lemmy.world avatar

🎶 sacred, every sperm is great... 🎶

TSG_Asmodeus ,
@TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

🎶 If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate. 🎶

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

We did it Lemmy

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