Is it $60 or less? Everytime one of these alternative boards with an assload of more features pops up, nobody bothers to mention the price. Obviously we could spend more money to get more features, that's what spending more money does. You can't replace something without actually offering an alternative. The pi's biggest selling point was that it was cheaper than a steak dinner. If you dont match or beat that, you aren't actually competing with the pi.
It looks like it's ~$100. But when I've used similar SBCs in the past the issue ends up being drivers. Even if something is faster and better specced than a RasPi, you end up outside that ecosystem with very little in the way of support for whatever oddball hardware your board has.
Cool? I'm seeing $165, but my original comment was based on the article as it existed five months ago. I'm not sure the board was even shipping at that time
Anyone know what the throughout would look like on that? Would love to use it for SSDs if it’s fast or spinning disks if it could run at a reasonable rate.
One lane of pcie. Gen 2 for raspberry pi. Maybe gen 3 for other boards. So, 5-8gbit/s total. Compared to SATA 3 which is 6gbit/s, and there are 5 of those if the esata* port can go that fast.
Most PCBs, even really cheap ones, are made from FR-4, which is a very robust fibreglass. It's would be a pretty decent choice for drone components in general.
Not drones, but Carl Bugeja on YouTube makes some fascinating machines almost entirely out of PCBs (although he uses a lot of flex PCBs, not just FR-4).
I've been putting off building a new NAS for (going on) 3 years now. Power draw was a concern since I've been trying to downsize and become more efficient with each refresh cycle. This looks really promising, and I love that it has two 2.5 Gb ethernet ports on board.
Edit: The press release says 3x 2.5 Gb ports but the Amazon listing only says 2 Povoq's right. The Realtek is the third. The way it's listed in the Amazon description just made it hard to find. Either way, that's plenty for my use case.
I'm still trying to decide if I want to build a pure NAS with a board like this or go for something more powerful that can also handle transcoding and run my media server. Currently, I'm about 60% in favor of a pure, lower power NAS and keeping my media server separate (like my current configuration).
I really do need to make a decision soon, lol, as I'm very close to capacity on my current storage.
if you need any questions about something basic about CWWK boards, i can probably answer some of them. I made my own media/NAS board out of a n100 based CWWK board about 2 months ago
outside of the few hiccups of starting to integrate various distros of linux into my life (had used ubuntu like back in 2017, but only recently used debian for this NAS, and loaded an arch-based distro onto my Framework 16) its doing pretty good. The whole purpose of my usecase was to make a tiny NAS so I needed an ITX board with at least 5 sata ports and the board fit my goal (ontop of the extra being power efficient).
I haven't tested the limits of how many users could be streaming content off my system simultaneously yet. Ive heard ~10 1080p streams if GPU encoding is enabled (in my usecase, had to use debian testing since the current kernel of debian 12 does not include hardware acceleration for the n100).
If I had a single thing I wished it had, I wish the chips had arc based media encoders for AV1 support, so if there was one key feature that would make future variants of that line of cpus desirable in the future, it would be that.
Yeah, the arc encoders would be nice to have. My current setup struggles when it has to transcode AV1 streams. At least it can use HW acceleration for the encode phase.
Someone mentioned driver support may be iffy. Sounds like you didn't hit any major issues there? I'd also likely be running Debian on it and using ZFS for my filesystem/LVM. Probably boot it from NVME and use all 6 SATA connectors for the pool drives.
yeah you just have to be aware that debian 12 might not by deefault, have the correct kernel needed for hardware acceleration, so youd have to go into debian testing to compile it yourself. If you attempt to cpu encode your way through things, you'd only get a couple of streams before it bogged itself down.
I'm not 100% sold on running my media server on the NAS. It's currently a separate box, and I'm still mostly leaning toward keeping it that way and letting the NAS just be a NAS.
This CPU has quick sync so should not be a problem. I doubt you will need more than 3-4 4k to 1080 transcodes if you are remotely considering this board so it should not be an issue.
My only concern with these one off mb manufacturers is driver support in your os of choice including Linux variants.
True. I wasn't factoring in Quck Sync. My current media server uses that for transcoding, so should be fine on that too. Good point. Yeah, 3-4 streams is the most it ever sees at once, usually 1-2.
My only concern with these one off mb manufacturers is driver support in your os of choice including Linux variants.
Also good point. Cursory checking shows the JMB585 SATA interface, i220-V intel NIC, and RTL8125B NIC should all have in-kernel driver support in recent Linux releases. Not sure about any other motherboard peripherals, but at least those seem to be supported. Definitely something to keep in mind. Thanks!
Give me full ATX with 15 sata ports and I would bite. 10 HDD and 5 caching ssds. I would prefer full axt because with that many drives I would need a full case so might as well use a full board.
Few years ago I had a board with 10, can't find any boards with that many anymore. Ended up with one with 8 plus two expansion cards to get me to the 13 drives I have currently with 3 spare for future expansion. Replacing my old 4TB drives with 12TB drives as my media hoard expands. Upgrade feature of radarr has been a blight on my storage. 😀
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