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fubarx , to Technology in LuckFox Pico Ultra is a micro dev board with PoE and a Rockchip RV1106 ARM/RISC-V chip - Liliputing

Reminds me of project CHIP: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIP_(computer)

Hooefully, with better economics.

krigo666 , to homelab in Banana Pi BPI-M7 router board now available for $165 (RK3588 processor, dual 2.5 Gb Ethernet, WiFi 6 and BT 5.2)

The competitor is the Orange Pi 5 Plus, also has 2x 2.5GB Ethernet, same SoC, more USBports, no integrated WiFi+BT (optional M.2 module), eMMC connector, M.2 NVMe socket (up to 2280).

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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So you'd suggest the Orange Pi Plus?

krigo666 , (edited )

I have one, and Armbian has an official release for it and works quite well with a Kioxia 512GB NVMe.

But at this moment I'm just saying there are similar boards out there, and the 5 Plus might be slightly cheaper (no wireless though). Radxa also has a similar board based on same SoC but only has one GbE port and price might be similar to the Banana Pi.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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Fuck, I accidentally clicked this and was saving it in my inbox 😭

lemmyuser100002 , to homelab in Banana Pi BPI-M7 router board now available for $165 (RK3588 processor, dual 2.5 Gb Ethernet, WiFi 6 and BT 5.2)

How is the software support? It seems like you could alternatively get a nice quad-core x86 Intel box with a handful of 2.5G ports off of AliExpress for around $120(you'd have to bring your own RAM and SSD in those cases though) and enjoy full Ubuntu/OpenWrt support.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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According to the official website, it will officially have Android 12.0, Debian 11 and Buildroot support and will unofficially support Armbian, Ubuntu 20.04, Ubuntu 22.04 and Kylin OS.

As for x86, I'd really like to try and avoid it for a router.

davidfreina ,

As for x86, I’d really like to try and avoid it for a router.

Why? (genuine question)

smotherlove ,

x86_64 is inefficient and insecure

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Is this board using FOSS RISC-V with open schematics? If not, there's very good reason to suspect it too.

smotherlove ,

RK3855 = 4x Cortex-A76 + 4x Cortex-A55

smotherlove ,

Also, I trust ARM (almost definitely backdoor'd) over x86_64 (confirmed backdoor'd)

MigratingtoLemmy ,

They're both with backdoors how do you trust either?

smotherlove , (edited )

I don't trust either, I'm just saying I trust ARM more. English is confusing and trust can be both boolean and float at the same time

ARM trust: 0.2 (false)

x86 trust: 0.1 (false)

MigratingtoLemmy ,

RISC-V FTW

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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I didn't know RISC-V routers were a thing. There's OPNSense support for RISC-V?

MigratingtoLemmy ,

There isn't. I was asking if the Banana Pi used RISC-V

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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It's ARM

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Yes

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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It's a couple levels of power more than what I need for a router in my opinion.

mPony , to Technology in Pocket 386 is a mini laptop for retro computing with support for DOS and Windows 95 - Liliputing

Much respect for the clever name of the company. I hope younger generations still know about Gulliver's Travels

vext01 , to Technology in MicroJournal is a distraction-free writing tool with Cherry MX hot-swap keys - Liliputing
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Can you imagine using that in public?

BeigeAgenda , to Technology in MicroJournal is a distraction-free writing tool with Cherry MX hot-swap keys - Liliputing
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Install WordPerfect 5.1 on the Pocket386 for a more retro feel.

geography082 , to Technology in Framework open sources the 3D CAD design files for its modular 16 inch laptop

So they will be earning money from people that helps them on the open sourced design ?

Wilzax ,

While losing money from people who didn't buy frames manufactured by them, yes. That's the point of open source, to let the community have ownership of the design and to make your business model less reliant on intellectual property.

ramble81 , to Self-hosting in Mini PC with Intel N100 and 6 x 2.5 GbE LAN ports

Can the N100 even run two ports at line speed, let alone 6? Having 2.5Gps ports is cool and all but even using it as a 2-port firewall I’d be curious what throughput you could get with it.

poVoq OP Mod ,
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This has seperate Intel i226-V NICs, so it's not all on the CPU, but I guess the actual throughput would need to be tested.

bear ,
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I've got a Protectli VP2420 running OPNSense at home, which has 4x Intel i225-V 2.5gbe running on a weaker Celeron J6412, and I was able to get the expected iperf performance of ~2.35gbps from some brief testing between two directly connected machines. I didn't really do any deeper testing than that though, and I'm not currently doing any crazy threat detection stuff.

PoliticallyIncorrect , to Technology in Banana Pi's $31 BPI-WiFi 6 router runs a fork of OpenWrt - Liliputing
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It is any good?

smileyhead OP ,

It's very much budget option.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
@PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world avatar

Would you personally recommend it?

smileyhead OP ,

I didn't use or have one, just sharing because I found this interesting and maybe others already would have something to say about the spec.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
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Tbh looks interesting, I will check more info online, thx for the post mate 👍👍

partial_accumen , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

I can think of one valid use case for this unsolved by any other solution:

Lets say a company has an SoC board base product currently currently base on ARM. They want to eventually migrate to RISC-V based solution.

If a company has a product currently written to use ARM compiled code, but wants to transition to RISC-V (which isn't ready yet), they could deploy this board which could run today's ARM implementation, and it would be future-ready when the RISC-V implementation would be released without having to replace hardware.

Treczoks , (edited ) to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

The award for "WTF Design" goes to...

So you get either a mediocre ARM or a mediocre RISC-V, plus an even worse RISC-V, plus an 8051 core.

I've seen a lot of crazy, stupid SOC designs in the last decades, but this is extraordinary.

And the board has USB2, 10/100 Ethernet, Wifi and/or(?) BT, and 512MB RAM. With no real support on the software side, and to small to run a modern Linux efficiently. If this board costs more than $10, it is doomed.

bjoern_tantau , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing
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Reminds me of my Commodore 128. You could boot it into 64 bit mode for legacy programs. I had exactly one C-128 game (which was a super complicated combat flight sim) so I only used it in C-64 mode.

Gennadios , (edited ) to Technology in Pocket 386 is a mini laptop for retro computing with support for DOS and Windows 95 - Liliputing

This is pretty late, they've been out for months. The most recent addition is the Pocket 8086, waiting on mine to get delivered.

It probably doesnt matter to most of you but it has an 8 bit ISA add-on board, meaning its an easy way to test era appropriate components such as Audio and video cards. Great for people more interested in vintage hardware than software.

rottingleaf , to Technology in Pocket 386 is a mini laptop for retro computing with support for DOS and Windows 95 - Liliputing

Does it run NetBSD?

sabreW4K3 , to Self-hosting in Mini PC with Intel N100 and 6 x 2.5 GbE LAN ports
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All of these AliExpress Protectli knockoffs are great for keeping prices reasonable and I'm yet to come across anyone that's rued taking the opportunity to buy one.

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