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queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I never understand why in 2024 you'd buy nvidia, unless you like paying more for less, or buying from scalpers for even more money. I guess some people really just go "More money spent on it, more better" no matter what.

Bye ,

Need cuda.

squid_slime ,
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

Rocm might be worth looking into

Holzkohlen ,

Tell it to the people making the software I use. I'd switch immediately if they would support anything but Cuda and Optix.

squid_slime ,
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

I ran into issues with rocm support it does suck,
Zluda looked promising but reading news it would seem nvidia is actively trying to ban it

angel ,

Haven’t tried it, but might be worth looking into: https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

A 1070 is hardly a card anyone would buy in 2024. Maybe they were running Windows before that and didn't care that much.

Also, hard to believe, but for a long while nVidia actually gave you the better experience on Linux. Before AMD had bought ATI. And probably a good while after the sale. The ATI drivers sucked ass.

finkrat ,

People just think "gaming?? OH NO I NEED MY NVIDIA!!!!" while AMD is sitting there like "hey. Hey I have a card that'll work. Hey. Card. Right here. Works better in Linux. Less headaches. Hello. Hey person. Card. Hi."

mr_right ,
@mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Only if you consider ray tracing to be a gimmik (which it is) then AMD is the obvious way to go.

In reality It's because people bought their laptops and their Desktops before switching and want to Use their already existing graphic cards.

finkrat ,

This is a very good point, I forgot gaming laptops are almost exclusively nvidia

Aurenkin ,

NVIDIA still have the best performing cards if you care about ray tracing. I honestly think that's the only reason to consider buying NVIDIA but you pay a heck of a premium for that.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

I'd like to buy AMD, but I have all these use cases

  • HDMI 2.1 (4K @ 120Hz) - relevant after recent news, if planning to use open source drivers
  • CUDA + Machine Learning applications
  • DLSS still visually better than FSR
  • Ray Tracing still better on GeForce cards
nekusoul ,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

I think the first one can be circumvented by just using a DP->HDMI adapter. But yeah, those other points are why I'm a bit hesitant about swapping to AMD myself.

lemmeee ,

CUDA + Machine Learning applications

AMD has HIP or Rocm, which unlike CUDA is free software. Any program that uses proprietary CUDA libraries is proprietary.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Well yes and no. There is proprietary software that uses CUDA but there also is other AI software that optionally uses CUDA. Usually there is a free software built version

twinnie ,

Because the features are better. That’s why most FPS comparisons of AMD and Nvidia always turn off the ray tracing.

rtxn ,

Blender Cycles on Linux does not work with an AMD GPU. Updating either the kernel or ROCm has a 50-50 chance of completely breaking Cycles. By comparison, I had zero issues with Cycles, either CUDA or OptiX, on my 2060. OptiX is also a better denoiser that runs on the GPU, while AMD only has OpenImage that runs on the CPU (GPU support is questionable at this point).

lemmeee ,

Updating either the kernel or ROCm has a 50-50 chance of completely breaking Cycles

That sucks, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I'm on Debian stable and it works fine for me, except for weird crashes from time to time.

helenslunch , (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Well on Windows I had a lot of problems with AMD drivers. Nvidia also basically owns the high end of the market (4080, 4090). They're better at video rendering (CUDA). Better at Ray Tracing. Usually more efficient (using less power) on desktop cards. DLSS is better than FSR. And they come with some neat software.

But yeah, if you're getting even a mid-high card like a 4070, AMD has the price-performance and of course far fewer issues on Linux.

Shady_Shiroe ,
@Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world avatar

I started using AMD cuz it was the "more bang for your buck" option and because of my cheapness I have always had a great experience with Linux, excluding wifi breaking every few months.

Rustmilian ,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

What's your Wi-Fi card?

Virgo ,

Leave my wife’s icard out of your goddamn mouth

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

I went with AMD because I got fed up with nVidia, similarly like OP did or at least guy in the screen shot. Never looked back. Sure, AMD requires binary blob to initialize card, but it just works and zero issues since then. Upgrade hardware, just transfer drive to a new machine and voila you are ready to go.

bigmclargehuge ,

I was on a GTX1080 for a long time. Nothing absolutely dealbreaking, but lots of small naggling issues that took lots of annoying troubleshooting to fix. Plus, abysmal DX12 performance (which is a limitation of the cards Pascal architecture as far as I know, not everyone experiences it but it's common enough).

Switched to an RX 7600XT and wow. Night and day. Zero configuration, zero weird issues, games perform fantastic at high settings (CP2077 at 1440p/High settings across the board is a pretty stable 80+ FPS, compared to 50fps at low and medium and 1080p with the old card, even on Windows). Complete gamechanger.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Same experience I had. nVidia is not a complete deal-breaker but people just don't realize how many small nagging issues owning nVidia card entails. Switching to AMD was an eye-opening event for me. Then I realized how often I got annoyed by old card.

Alfons ,

Needed to switch from Debian to Manjaro because of some gcc version conflicts regarding the linux Kernel and the nvidia driver kernel module. The only fix was to install a newer or older linux kernel. Which is a pain in the ass with Debian but is easy with Manjaro :)

Also switching between newest „gaming“ drivers and cuda always broke my system and drove me crazy. So many hours lost because of nvidia.

I also have to work with some nvidia edge devices. No fresh install without new issues, i can assure you.

Edit: Fyi although I am somewhat teck-savvy, I just recently switched completely to linux. Hence, there might be a good way to handle cuda drivers and „gaming“ drivers

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