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masquenox ,

I'm still undecided as to who is more irritating to deal with... the tankies over in .ml or the liberals over here.

Viking_Hippie OP , (edited )

It's a tough competition for sure lol. I'd say that the tankies edge it, but woe betide anyone criticizing Biden for anything on .world.

"I don't think that knowingly supplying the bombs used to commit genocide is great"

"Oh yeah? Well, TRUMP!"

possiblylinux127 , (edited )
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Time for an alternate community

bloodfart ,

You said that germanys Nazi problem doesn’t have to do with west Germany never denazifying and that west Germany was a perfect country because of how pacifist it is and how they remember the holocaust.

You posted a screenshot earlier, but here’s the text of your removed comment, split up into the part you quoted and your comment itself for people who have trouble reading the screenshot:

West Germany was never denazified data that ends before the BIRTH of the majority of Germans

Look, I'm not saying that Germany doesn't have a problem with an increase in far right politics and violence in recent years, but to claim that they never stopped being a Nazi country is some ahistorical tankie edgelord bullshit. Until recently, Germany has been a near-pacifist country almost pathologically careful to "Nie wiederholen, nie vergessen" (never repeat, never forget) and pretending otherwise doesn't accomplish anything except expose your very shallow and underdeveloped understanding of the world.

For people who don’t know 20th century European history, that’s like saying that American racism isn’t related to how half assed reconstruction was except over a shorter timeframe.

Strykker ,

The comment you quoted has zero issues, and just paints you as a crazy fucking psycho.

bloodfart ,

What makes me seem like a crazy fucking psycho there?

EchoCT ,

I mean most of the Nazi middle leadership just became NATO/Western Germany leadership. But they said they're sorry so it was OK.

A_A ,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

Do this :
Settings >> Blocks >> Block instance : lemmy.ml

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

There's a few niche communities there

A_A ,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

ideally, when we subscribe to a community but we block the instance, the behavior of the software should be that we would see said community ... but in fact, I really don't know what Lemmy software does in those cases.

DarkThoughts ,

I wanted to do this one for a while now.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/post/14142948

For those on Lemmy who wish to access this post through their home instance

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Lemmy is so fucking bad ass. You get to see exactly why they banned you. I think you can type in anyone's username to see tbe bans.

https://lemmy.world/modlog

Feel free to type in my name, I already got a ban.

Sorry I got a little to hot about Russia out producing the USA in artillery shells this far into the Ukraine war. I feel like we spent trillions on defense, there should be production lines just waiting to go for every type of ammunition.

Capitalists will lynch us the moment it is profitable to do so, why are we putting our safety and national security in thier hands?

FiniteBanjo ,

I hate when they don't even say what comment was removed, you just have to search for it through your post history and hit edit to view the original.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

That's where the modlog comes in very handy! It's even available right on your profile tab in Voyager 😁

Lumisal ,

What is lemmy.ml and lemmygrad? I'm just a casual using Voyager

RememberTheApollo_ , (edited )

Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups that have no interest in dissenting opinion and often spill out into the rest of the fediverse posting anti-western propaganda.

PanoptiDon ,

Does this break the rules of the fediverse?

RememberTheApollo_ ,

What rules?

The rules are what each instance operator makes them (outside of breaking laws). It’s up to the other instance operators to defederate from instances that they don’t want direct sharing with for whatever reasons. So if lemmygrad wants to be anti-west, make anti-western posts, comment on current events and insinuate or blame the West for whatever, post trolling comments or fake news, that’s what will happen.

CanadaPlus ,

Even breaking laws could fare fine if they're unimportant enough. A child porn instance would have cops breaking down the server room door, but I'm pretty sure there's already piracy-friendly instances, and a shoplifting one can't be far behind.

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

A child porn instance would have cops breaking down the server room door

Burggit.moe does synthetic child porn, stuff like loli/shota material. That's First Amendment-protected in the US (and is apparently legal in the Netherlands, where the server says that it lives), but is illegal in a number of countries in the EU.

piracy-friendly instances

lemmy.dbzer0.com was created specifically to do piracy stuff, and is one of the major Threadiverse instances. And db0 himself has contributed a fair bit of software to improving Threadiverse infrastructure:

https://github.com/Fediseer/fediseer

https://github.com/db0/fedi-safety

CanadaPlus ,

A drawn loli seems like a victimless crime to me too, TBH. I find it personally gross, but I mind my own business.

Interested to see if this starts shit.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Hexbear falls under this umbrella, right?

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Absolutely. Hexbear seems like the most insular and loud one of all. Lemmy.ml can be fairly normal sometimes, actually, just because it's the OG site and gets a lot of general traffic.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

They defederated ages ago.

CanadaPlus ,

Basically, it's flat Earth theory but for geopolitics. They believe the exact opposite of what everyone else does so they can have a tight-knit community devoted to being smugly superior to the sheeple.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

That's a good way of putting it

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups

"Everyone I Don't Like is Hitler An Evil Foreigner"

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

even BRICS are bad now?

lil ,
@lil@lemy.lol avatar

I don't believe lemmy.ml's are pro russian, at least not in that way.

Hubi , (edited )
@Hubi@lemmy.world avatar

It's not as bad as Lemmygrad but most news threads about Russia/China/Ukraine are a total shitshow over there.

Blackmist ,

They're something to add to your block list.

dev_null ,

Thanks. I wanted to create a Lemmy account and this one seemed like the the most generic default one, huge user base, ran by the Lemmy devs, all right surely it's the safest, most non-controversial choice.

Then I see stuff like this.

Lumisal ,

How to block? And I'm still a bit confused about instances. How do I know which I joined?

Blackmist ,

You're on lemmy.world

You can go to https://lemmy.world/settings click the blocks tab up top, and then add instances to block in there, in the box marked "Block instance".

I think lemmy.world has already defederated lemmygrad and hexbear, so you should just need to add lemmy.ml

Lumisal ,

Thank you!

archomrade ,

I have no opinion about the particular circumstances of ops ban or anyone else's interaction with lemmy.ml, but posting through a ban just never looks good

A whole comment section posting bans looks... worse. It looks worse.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

What do you mean by posting through a ban?

Viking_Hippie OP , (edited )

posting through a ban just never looks good

It's not like I'm evading the ban by posting there with another account or anything.

Just letting off steam about idiots in a community meant for, amongst other things, exactly that 🤷

Did you want me to leave Lemmy entirely for 3 days just because one idiot tankie called my common sense reply McCarthyism?

archomrade ,

I don't mean ban evasion, I mean posting about it on another instance

It just looks a lot like posting about a break up. Usually you get only half the story and the other person is made out to be crazy

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Well in this case it's clearly the whole story and the other person clearly IS a deranged tankie, so there's that 🤷

archomrade ,

🤷

Faresh ,

I want to remind everyone in here that Lemmy is self-hosted and federated. If you want to make your post visible on their server or community, you have to abide by the rules they set even if they or their enforcement may seem arbitrary or stupid. It's their server/community you want to put your stuff on and they do not have a duty to accept it. Lemmy allows you to block those communities or instances or even to create or host your own.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Ah yes the freeze peach argument

Faresh ,

No, I'm not appealing to that. Fuck nazis. (I don't actually see how my comment could be interpreted as that since my comment was in response to users complaining about having their content removed from other instances or communities, which if anything would make them the free speechers (I'm not saying that they are))

Lemmy, in contrast to centralized platforms doesn't force you to be restricted to the rulings of a single group of people under threat of being barred from using the entire platform.

My point is, when you are talking on another instance, you are a guest there and it is completely expected for them to kick you out if you don't abide by their house rules or if they don't want you there anymore for whatever reason. While it doesn't mean they shouldn't be criticized for it, the impression I got from the comments on this post is that they think it is some kind attack to a basic human right to remove their comments from a foreign instance and that admins should allow all content your instance allows.

The same can be said about the reactions people from other instances display towards news of some instance defederating from the instance they are on.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Enjoy your "naunced" freeze peach argument

HawlSera ,

Jesus fucking Christ, are we getting the power-trip mods?

I_Clean_Here ,

I mean, what was your comment, mate?

Viking_Hippie OP ,

This one: https://lemmy.world/comment/9266324

Roflmasterbigpimp ,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing your said was wrong and wtf is McCarthyism even?

Viking_Hippie OP ,

McCarthyism was the Second Red Scare philosophy of "everything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport is communism and communism is the most dangerous thing in the history of the world" taught by senator Joe McCarthy and other closet fascists.

It was used as an excuse to hunt down and blacklist anyone they didn't like, whether they were left wing, Jewish, worked in Hollywood or, sweet merciful Anglo Saxon God more than one of the above.

The irony of him invoking that while unfairly punishing me for not following the local groupthink isn't lost on me, though I'm sure it is on him 😄

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

It's what tankies use to rile fear of political opposition in their groups.

The ironic part is that is exactly how McCarthyism was used back in the cold war.

Their ideals are as outdated as their ability to reason.

FangedWyvern42 ,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

How is that McCarthyism?

Viking_Hippie OP , (edited )

It isn't. His reaction of banning me for saying something factual that he doesn't like might qualify as an extremely mild version, though 😄

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

yeah,yeah nuke .world i agree (finnaly someone speaking out of being tortured by shit moderators being able to be anonymous as automod)

Thcdenton ,

Hey if the want to keep their community tiny that's their prerogative lol

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