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APassenger , (edited )

They want out and haven't found a way to make money off of voice assistant. They're just slowly killing it.

It's part of why I'm pushing hard on my HA and hoping their voice efforts at least give me a solid voice experience at home.

HA = Home Assistant

Edit to say: I get that people are frustrated that previously good (mostly) free solutions are going away. I'm not defending tech, but I do see their business need here. Google has long lost my trust anyhow.

I'm not upset by the down votes, but 8 do wonder what they mean.

To me the only safe thing to do is pull back and build my own. Raspberry Pis aren't expensive.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

never forget

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/a7934c01-c6f8-487e-b693-973e89945d43.png

RGB3x3 OP ,

I never will. I loved Google Now. It legitimately felt like the future when it came out. So much more useful than the dumbass article and product sales feed it is now.

Jimmycakes ,

Rabbit gonna kill these guys

StephniBefni ,

What are you saying can't use it with blutooth, the update just says it will be used by default if you have a blutooth device connected.

Aermis ,

I've had this issue with my headset forever, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but I would ask Google a question and then Google replies with you "please unlock your device". If I unlock my device with my hands I'm not asking you how many grams of protein are in a cup of flour. My hands are dirty. Or busy. If this update makes it no longer accept requests while locked and I'm wearing my Bluetooth headset, the wtf is the point of it.

StephniBefni ,

It doesn't say that though, it says it's under the 'assistant lock screen' settings page now rather than the blutooth device page.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

How google of them

Perhapsjustsniffit ,

Mine turned off completely and won't even download to the phone. Whatever. Less shit is better anyway.

Mango ,

Downdate

HelloHotel ,
@HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

"All the 'G' keys on our keyboards are missing, my front wheel is missing, [whispers to camera] I cant get home! [narrorator: 'careful tim']"

jol ,

They heard OpenAi wanted to replace Google assistant and instead of fixing the problems decided to kill it. Typical Google.

ali ,

Another silent change in the latest update, at least on my phone, is that the assistant disregards media volume levels and screams its feedback on full volume. It wasn't like this until a week ago. Restarting, playing with settings, adjusting the volume as she screams, nothing helps.

So if I ask her to do something late at night she goes, "OKAY I WILL DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU ASKED ME TO DO AND WILL ANNOUNCE IT TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE PROCESS"

trafficnab ,

"OKAY, BUYING MORE PREPARATION H"

badaboomxx ,

I've never used it, only clogs ram.

Witchfire ,
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

They just laid off a bunch of people from Google Assistant

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

That reminds me, I should really check out Graphene OS...

Onii-Chan ,

Do it, boi. One of us. One of us.

null ,
@null@slrpnk.net avatar

Yes you should -- but definitely make sure you know what you're giving up (or freeing yourself from as the case may be) before diving in.

Google Wallet is probably the biggest deal breaker for most.

DeltaTangoLima ,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Yeah, Google Wallet and my banking app. Secondarily, access to my work emails and Slack. I'm on the move so much during the day, my laptop rarely leaves my backpack sometimes.

CrackaAssCracka ,
@CrackaAssCracka@lemmy.world avatar

Schwab app works for me on Graphene and that's my main bank/stocks app. I've found I don't really need all my credit card apps or my other bank app. I check once a day if that and just keep a bookmark. It hasn't been bad at all.

FlashZordon ,
@FlashZordon@lemmy.world avatar

"Oh shit we should probably charge a subscription for some of these features. Quick remove em so they don't notice"

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

But it sounds like they're just removing the ability to disable those features, not the features?

dumpsterlid ,

I don’t understand why google is still worth so much money, they are a trash company that really isn’t trying to improve any of its products. It just periodically threatens its workers with job cuts and continues to serve up crap to its customers.

orclev ,

That's because you don't understand what business Google is actually in. They're an ad company. They sell and serve ads. Everything else is just ways to better target and serve ads. All those "products"? Those aren't revenue streams to them, they're incidental costs of the ads that are their actual product.

dumpsterlid ,

I understand that, but they aren’t even that functional at doing that. They have ruined their products so much that it is threatening the ad value of the ads they sell I imagine. Google search is awful now and there is a very real chance people will stop using it for the first time in like a decade.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Those "ruined" products handily control huge chunks of the market. So from that perspective, they're not "ruined" at all. They're perfect.

Google search is awful now and there is a very real chance people will stop using it for the first time in like a decade.

Sure, but the one time someone brought actual empirical data into this discussion, it showed that while Google results did get worse, they got less worse than the ones of competing products like DDG (or Bing, which interestingly didn't share results with DDG, indicating that those must have expanded how much they use their own index).

Does that mean Google is better? No, they're still worse off. But if anything they made gains comparatively speaking, and what actually happened is that all search engines got worse because search-engine-spam-avoidance got defeated in huge parts.

dumpsterlid ,

Those “ruined” products handily control huge chunks of the market. So from that perspective, they’re not “ruined” at all. They’re perfect.

They control the market because Google, like most too-big-too-fail massive corporations, buys out any serious competitors and uses its dominant size to destroy the threat of competition before it can actually challenge them to make better products. Yes Google isn’t a monopoly in any of its industries but it doesn’t need to be since most of the large competitors they face are thinking the same way they are, why fight when we can enjoy our cake and do nothing?

Just because google products are widely used doesn’t mean they are good, it means people think they are the best option or can’t be bothered to switch which is a very very different thing.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

My point was more that the products aren't ruined from the perspective of their intended design. They're not meant as products to be of maximum usefulness to the customer, rather to capture and control the largest share of the market.

Telodzrum ,

they aren’t even that functional at doing that

They're actually amazing at it. The measure of success for an advertising company is selling ad space.

redcalcium ,

Surely this is not related to recent major layoff in Google Assistant division, right?

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