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Nobody ,

While slumping over a desk for 9 hours straight improves back health. Prevents 100% of cases of lumbago.

It’s not just that the old money dragons of commercial real estate are losing money, it’s also that middle management nothings need to exert their authority over you in person to feel relevant.

WFH makes every company money on decreased overhead. The war against it is 100% commercial property landlords that collect rent in the billions.

Fuck every single one of those fucking assholes. They are destroying our world to squeeze out just a little more.

intensely_human ,

I mean if our zoning wasn’t so overly strict, those real estate holders could cash in on enormous rent prices by transforming that commercial space into apartments.

Then there would be more housing supply, rents would go down, homelessness would improve, and those real estate holders would be able to get back to making profit, and there’d be less lying about the pros and cons of working from home.

All of it could be better, through the mechanism of consensual mutual profit that we call the free market. If only the government weren’t constantly enforcing largely arbitrary rules about how this block can house people but that block can only be for offices.

Keeping rendering plants away from preschools is fine. Arbitrarily telling people they can’t put beds and kitchens into a commercial space and let people live there is not.

There’s profit being lost AND people going homeless because there is a third party constantly preventing us from making the deals that mutually improve our lives.

And they’ve convinced you the real estate owners are the evil ones.

bionicjoey ,

Unfortunately the building codes for office and residential buildings are very different and it's damn near impossible to convert many offices into residences.

Grandwolf319 ,

That’s okay, I’ll take a whole floor with no showers or kitchen for a cheap price.

It’s not hard, it’s just not profitable meaning they have to take a lost, you know, like everyone else who makes a bad investment.

bionicjoey ,

It doesn't matter what you'll "take". It's illegal to live in a building that doesn't meet code for residential units. Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.

And they wouldn't just be converting entire floors into single units. Those would be beyond luxury sizes. You think a 50 storey building can afford to become a 50-unit apartment? How is that going to solve our housing crisis? Don't be dense.

For a conversion to work, they would need to be able to convert every floor of an office building into sufficiently dense housing. But office buildings are typically laid out with very deep footprints, where much of the internal layout of the building is far from any sources of natural light. Humans need access to natural light, which is why it's not legal to sell a unit where the main rooms don't all have windows. That can't be fixed without tearing down the building and building something new.

intensely_human ,

It's illegal to live in a building that doesn't meet code for residential units.

Yes. The idea here is that relaxing those laws and allowing

Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.

More important than having a roof over one’s head? A “free market” is when people make their own decisions about what’s important instead of the nanny state doing it for them.

And they wouldn't just be converting entire floors into single units.

I guess if plumbing is an issue then you could get about as many units out of an office as bathrooms that the office floor could
support.

Humans need access to natural light

Last time I stayed in a homeless shelter I had zero natural light. I was very, very happy to be inside, and nobody was forcing me to be there. I happily, eagerly, traded my natural light for shelter.

Free. Market. Adults making their own choices. Humans do not, in fact, need natural light. And the fact that some building code makes that claim, does not make it an aspect of reality.

intensely_human ,

Perhaps it’s still more profitable than letting a building sit there un-used. The market should be allowed to try.

Apytele ,

It is genuinely bad for your sleep hygiene to do alert and awake things in the sleepy place. It weakens the sensory cues of the sleepy place and leads to significant decreases in sleep quality. You have to create a separate awakeness place to do the awake things. But all this takes is a standing divider/curtain and a $20 desk from goodwill or habitat for humanity. Also open your curtains and play different music/white noise. Problem solved, no commute needed and still cheaper.

Tenthrow Mod ,
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I know a lot of people who work from home, none of them do so from bed.

Drusas ,

When I initially became disabled, I tried to keep working desperately. I spent a couple of months working from bed before I had to give up.

Just an anecdote. Most people don't actually work from bed.

cactusupyourbutt ,

I did it on the sofa, was pretty much the same

altima_neo ,
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My sister...

bjoern_tantau ,
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I once worked from my bed while I had a mild cold. Had a meeting with many international colleagues from all over Europe. I fell asleep. Luckily I had my camera and mic off. And it was about interfacing with SAP which I needed no help with.

Tar_alcaran ,

SAP meeting from bed. That's truly hard-mode!

asdfasdfasdf ,

I read this article the other day and tried working from my bed but couldn't do it for more than maybe 15 mins.

Gullible ,

A fresh push for improved ergonomics isn’t all that silly.

EdibleFriend ,
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That's bad for the laptop tho. Get one of those little bed tables.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

It's a Mac Book. Getting hot enough to fry an egg is a feature.

BorgDrone ,

Only on the old Intel models.

GBU_28 ,

New m3 doesn't

DeltaTangoLima ,
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fknlol - like people WFH are working from their bed. I can't think of a more uncomfortable location for my to do my job from. Except the office five days a week of course...

possiblylinux127 ,
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I need a poster that has the signs off bed rot

This reads like a Onion headline

ladicius ,

Propaganda is really getting dumber. The shit they make up looks like an accident of a bunch of clown cars.

Kolanaki ,
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I feel like getting bed sores and having muscles atrophy
is more of the worry than anything else and it's weird these aren't even concerns brought up.

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