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Please use a personal email.
My email is 'mail' @ 'my actual name'. It does not get more personal than that

But you can't use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.

Instead they advised me (3 times) to create a personal email on a service like
Yahoo, Outlook, Gmail, Orange, etc

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

If your domain is your actual name, then it should be trivial to create an SMTP alias for mail@domain.com that is for yourname@domain.com.

Attach that to your email address and inbound email for either will get to you, but only your primary address will be used for outbound communication.

Another fun one...

Gmail ignores periods in addresses.

So firstnamelastname@gmail.com also gets email for:

firstname.lastname@gmail.com
first.name.last.name@gmail.com

Or any combination...

f.i.r.s.t.n.a.m.e.l.a.s.t.n.a.m.e@gmail.com

rbesfe ,

Stop using self hosted email. It's just not worth the hassle.

cosmicrookie OP , (edited )
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

I like that i have control of my mail, that it is not being used to track me or target ads and also that i dont need to work about storage

For me its pretty good!

bbuez ,

Hey! Don't mean to butt in, but what's some pointers? I currently have resend set up for my personal site, but would like a fully fledged email server

cosmicrookie OP ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

I simply host it on a webserver for now.

K0W4LSK1 ,
@K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Its only a hassle because they want to read all your emails. Self hosting shouldn't be hard it should be an option for everyone always.

Moonrise2473 ,

Who said it's self hosted? For what we know he could be paying $200 a year to Microsoft for his personal mail@domain account under the most expensive office365 plan (sorry, did it change name? What's called now? Microsoft 365?)

Godnroc ,

Frustratingly, those are actually two separate plans.

thatKamGuy ,

Wouldn’t it make more sense to alias out each place you submit an email address to, so you can see who sells your contact details or otherwise gets hacked?

Eg: changeorg@yourna.me, netflix@yourna.me etc.?

cosmicrookie OP ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah i set up a catch all mail now. It just seems like a very defensive method to me.

drathvedro ,

I just go with full domain names. Like change.org@yourna.me. Even combos where data is shared, like shop.com-bank.org@your.name or jitsi.corp-gravatar.com@your.name. But some places actually went out of their way to disallow their own domains anywhere in the field. I've encountered it maybe like 3 times across all of ~1000 logins I have in my password manager.

And the amount of times I had to explain to people that yes, this is a legit email, yes it has your company's name and your personal name in it, it is exactly as intended, so don't send me spam because I will know it was you who sent it...

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

This is exactly what I do. When I start getting a bunch of spam addressed to Walmart@[my domain] I can blanket filter that straight into spam because I know Walmart sold my info.

Moonrise2473 ,

Is it possible to create an alias like fuckchange@domain?

ziviz ,
@ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Had something similar happen with indiegala. Had an account with them for years, then one day, could not purchase some games randomly. Hit up their support and got the answer "Oh, the purchase was denied because your account's email address is detected as a temporary email address".... The email address I've been using on that account... for years.... Is temporary.

blindbunny ,

So which corpo monitored email address did you end up going with?

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Could you not just make a second email account that you just use for things like this? Why is the only alternative to use your personal account? It takes like 2 minutes to make an alternate Gmail account lol

ReverendIrreverence ,
@ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world avatar

From the end user standpoint...my interest in reading about much less signing this petition just plummeted

dinckelman ,

This continues to really piss me off. I have a domain with a .xyz top level, and i’ve encountered more than a handful of services, that either repeatedly tell me I’ve meant to enter something else, or straight up block me as a spammer

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

But you can't use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.

If it's exactly stuff like "mail@", many mail systems will redirect stuff with a plus suffix to your main mailbox, like "mail+changeorg@". That might be okay.

davidgro ,

The image says they also exclude + and -.

Rentlar ,

As others have said, I'd suggest either:

  • enabling a catchall address (which will redirect to anything@yourdomain.com --> spam@yourdomain.com)
  • creating an alias: something@yourdomain.com --> mail@yourdomain.com

Both are done on your server/hosting side.

YaksDC ,
@YaksDC@lemm.ee avatar

I create a new alias account on my email server for each new account. That way when I am done with them I can just delete it and never get their spam ever.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Yeah I also have a non-standard email address, and I occasionally run into systems that aren’t properly set up to handle odd domains. I’ve definitely seen the “Please enter a valid email address. Make sure it ends with @gmail/yahoo/outlook etc” messages before.

cosmicrookie OP ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Nonstandard email sounds so wrong!
As long are it is valid, there should be no limits. Especially if they ask you to confirm by clicking on a link in a mail

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Oh I agree. But there are a lot of systems that don’t even recognize TLDs outside of .com, .org, and .net.

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

abuse@website-im-visiting.com probably wouldn’t work as well …

killjuden ,

https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=-WsMgmNsRuD

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