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Please use a personal email.
My email is 'mail' @ 'my actual name'. It does not get more personal than that

But you can't use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.

Instead they advised me (3 times) to create a personal email on a service like
Yahoo, Outlook, Gmail, Orange, etc

dinckelman ,

This continues to really piss me off. I have a domain with a .xyz top level, and i’ve encountered more than a handful of services, that either repeatedly tell me I’ve meant to enter something else, or straight up block me as a spammer

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Yeah I also have a non-standard email address, and I occasionally run into systems that aren’t properly set up to handle odd domains. I’ve definitely seen the “Please enter a valid email address. Make sure it ends with @gmail/yahoo/outlook etc” messages before.

cosmicrookie OP ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Nonstandard email sounds so wrong!
As long are it is valid, there should be no limits. Especially if they ask you to confirm by clicking on a link in a mail

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Oh I agree. But there are a lot of systems that don’t even recognize TLDs outside of .com, .org, and .net.

thatKamGuy ,

Wouldn’t it make more sense to alias out each place you submit an email address to, so you can see who sells your contact details or otherwise gets hacked?

Eg: changeorg@yourna.me, netflix@yourna.me etc.?

cosmicrookie OP ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah i set up a catch all mail now. It just seems like a very defensive method to me.

drathvedro ,

I just go with full domain names. Like change.org@yourna.me. Even combos where data is shared, like shop.com-bank.org@your.name or jitsi.corp-gravatar.com@your.name. But some places actually went out of their way to disallow their own domains anywhere in the field. I've encountered it maybe like 3 times across all of ~1000 logins I have in my password manager.

And the amount of times I had to explain to people that yes, this is a legit email, yes it has your company's name and your personal name in it, it is exactly as intended, so don't send me spam because I will know it was you who sent it...

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

This is exactly what I do. When I start getting a bunch of spam addressed to Walmart@[my domain] I can blanket filter that straight into spam because I know Walmart sold my info.

Raiderkev ,

Maybe we can start a change.org petition to get this resolved.

deezbutts ,

We can, op can't

Jahuffine ,

This took me too long to figure out🤣

pacoboyd ,
@pacoboyd@lemm.ee avatar

Here's the thing, you own the domain, set up what ever email alias you want and send it to your primary.

Starayo ,

Yeah, I just set up a catch-all and use individual emails for everything, like the gmail + trick but without sites rejecting + characters occasionally.

Of course, I have several domains and one is a .rodeo that some older sites refuse to believe is a TLD so there's that problem...

killjuden ,

https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=-WsMgmNsRuD

AA5B ,

This is a feature, not a bug. The rest of us don’t want crap being sent to admin email addresses, so fix your damn email and try again.

Personally I use generated email addresses to most places, but my personal address is <FIRST>@<LAST>.us

cosmicrookie OP ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

The email i was trying to use was mail@ my actual name and surname.

It is very handy to share and easy for people to remember.

I dont feel that it needs fixing when it is perfect for me and my needs but not for some company that needs to be overly careful

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Would an alias solve this?

realbadat ,

With the tiniest, slimmest, barely existent bit of effort to make an alias - yes.

But OP would clearly prefer to complain.

Lightborne ,

Bro. You can't sign a petition on change.org.

Just move on with your life.

MeThisGuy ,

sign me up

Xer0 ,

Agreed. Fuck this fake outrage era we live in.

Ledivin ,

The only outrage I see is in your comment 🙄

padge ,

My friend uses me@<their name>, wonder if that would work better

drathvedro ,

I have all my admin/mail/webmaster/etc blacklisted a long time ago because those are the that get spam first when spammers parse lists of registered domains.

I wonder if abuse@'s get any spam...

trk ,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

Then I guess for security reasons you won't be signing up.

ragica ,
@ragica@lemmy.ml avatar

As a person who ages ago created and single letter (before the @) email address thinking myself clever and efficient... I'm amazed and distressed how many forms have insisted that my email address is invalid.

rolling_resistance ,

Some developers prefer using half-baked regexes from stackoverflow, rather than reputable libraries for email address validation.

barsoap ,

Hmm. Why am I mildly surprised that I can't find anything non-regular about the syntax. There's nested comments but that's part of MIME quoting, not the actual address format, so it's reasonable to not accept those in an HTML entry field because HTML is many things, but not MIME.

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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    barsoap ,

    I don’t know why single character email addresses would fail that test, though.

    Could be that they get a huge amounts of bounces from those kinds of addresses. I'm sure at least half of Germany is using a@bc.de as the go-to "I don't wanna give out my email" address.

    Moonrise2473 ,

    Is it possible to create an alias like fuckchange@domain?

    rbesfe ,

    Stop using self hosted email. It's just not worth the hassle.

    cosmicrookie OP , (edited )
    @cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

    I like that i have control of my mail, that it is not being used to track me or target ads and also that i dont need to work about storage

    For me its pretty good!

    bbuez ,

    Hey! Don't mean to butt in, but what's some pointers? I currently have resend set up for my personal site, but would like a fully fledged email server

    cosmicrookie OP ,
    @cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

    I simply host it on a webserver for now.

    K0W4LSK1 ,
    @K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Its only a hassle because they want to read all your emails. Self hosting shouldn't be hard it should be an option for everyone always.

    Moonrise2473 ,

    Who said it's self hosted? For what we know he could be paying $200 a year to Microsoft for his personal mail@domain account under the most expensive office365 plan (sorry, did it change name? What's called now? Microsoft 365?)

    Godnroc ,

    Frustratingly, those are actually two separate plans.

    Natanael ,

    Create an alias and set forwarding

    cornshark , (edited )

    "why should I change? He's the one who sucks!"

    isles ,

    Ah, the age old "right" vs "effective" argument.

    Sc00ter ,

    Never seen office space?

    SteveTech ,

    I've got a catch-all setup to go straight to my spam folder, OP could do something similar.

    uranibaba ,

    Set all mails addressed to your domain but to the wrong email to be sent to your primary email. Then sign the petition with "<service_you_are_signing_up_fo>@yourname.com".

    cosmicrookie OP ,
    @cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah.
    I didn't have a catch all mail and have set it up now. I was just surprised and 'mildly infuriated' that they would block this

    K0W4LSK1 ,
    @K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Catch all is better you can see who's selling your email lol

    greentreerainfire ,

    I do this with my domain and it works great.
    Only negative I’ve had is that people with a similar name have ended up signing up for things and misspelling theirs with it ending up on mine.

    Babalugats ,

    I haven't ever used it, never signed a petition, but isn't change.org only about petitions?
    I can kinda see their reasoning.. They may even have had their hand forced to do it.

    Loads of people who want their way probably signed up with tons of accounts to skew the results. If it's going to work, I guess they need to be able to show that they're legit, out at least that change.org are doing their best to make it that they are.

    It's easy to set up one gmail account for example and use it a million times with moving a dot throughout the name or putting a plus sign and anything after the username but before the @ symbol.

    cosmicrookie OP ,
    @cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

    They still require you to confirm the email by clicking a link sent to that email, although someone mentioned that this may be an option to the creator of the petition

    I do understand the requirement of not using . or + but blocking mail@ info@ seems too extreme to me.

    Appoxo ,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Can be automated. Creating a new e-mail account is more annoying.

    Siethron ,

    Automailers often have names like that i.e. noreplymail@companyname.com so it may be more about stopping spam or stopping people from using spam email accounts.

    dubyakay ,

    That sounds like nonsense.

    0x0 ,

    fuckyouchangedororg@my.actual.name

    mriormro ,
    @mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

    You really showed change.org, buddy.

    ulterno ,
    @ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

    OP needs to use this alias.

    constantokra ,

    Unfortunately, I've run into plenty of sites that won't accept subdomain email addresses.

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