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ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

What I find hilarious is that these are just minor hiccups. The emulation scene has existed for a long time and will continue to exist for a long time. None of these recent measures will do anything to stop it as long as the emulator devs aren’t trying to make money off Nintendo IP.

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I see discord is entrenched enough where they dont need to care about their users.

Good_morning ,

It was nice while it lasted I guess, now to begin the slow search for another private community for the friend group to very slowly migrate to.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

now to begin the slow search for another private community for the friend group to very slowly migrate to.

Just don't pick another proprietary platform again.

conorab ,

That’s not really fair on Discord. The article mentions they received an injunction to remove the content so they were forced to do this. Anybody in the same jurisdiction would have to do the same:

“Discord responds to and complies with all legal and valid Digital Millennium Copyright Act requests. In this instance, there was also a court ordered injunction for the takedown of these materials, and we took action in a manner consistent with the court order,” reads part of a statement from Discord director of product communications Kellyn Slone to The Verge.

Corgana ,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Step 2 of enshittification:

First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves.

penquin ,
@penquin@lemm.ee avatar

I don't get why we are always running after our abusers, we have so many FOSS alternatives to this shit. And please don't hit me with that "discord has more users" bullshit. I'm so sick of these fuckers abusing their powers.

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TheButtonJustSpins ,

Revolt also actively discourages you from self hosting because they want to get the network effect going, and you can't do that if everything is splintered.

I have yet to find a Discord alternative, and I've looked a few times.

tissek ,

An alternative for me is pretty much useless if it's not an alternative for my groups. Those I use discord with. It is more likely we migrate to a corporate solution than a foss one.

progandy ,

There could be a middlegreound if revolt implemented a central openid user registry, presence indication and e2ee direct chat plus self hosted communities using that login (and maybe optional local registration). And maybe a community overview for public communities.

BreakDecks ,

Anyone arguing "Discord has more users" on here can just be reminded that Reddit / Twitter has more users than their fediverse alternatives, and yet here they are on Lemmy, and probably Mastodon too.

A better world is possible.

lowleveldata ,

I'm sure all these companies have similar policy that they can stop hosting your things if they don't like to

tesseract ,

Backup and migrate. Choose only platforms that support it. The only weak point there is the DNS registrar.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,

Centralization = easy censorship.

Syn_Attck ,

Mass centralization. Old school forums like phpBB and SMF and vBulletin and new-school forums like self-hosted discourse are also centralized, but by one small user calling the shots, and it's very clear immediately which forums are well-run. If a forum isn't well-run with a good community, a 'competitor' will quickly pop up that is, and people will go to it. Sure, you have to have some tech skills but there are easy guides for all of it. Discourse is a simple docker image and it's the best for features and engagement IMO.

Sure you have to sorry about DDoS attacks and staying patched, but you can use OVH or another host with a large infrastructure that had DDoS resistant servers. Or, god forbid, cloudflare.

jarfil ,
@jarfil@beehaw.org avatar

Time to restore a backup on a different hosting provider... what, Discord doesn't let export backups, or self-host it? Well, shouldn't have relied on Discord then.

thingsiplay ,
@thingsiplay@beehaw.org avatar

There is this Matrix-Discord bridge, but I don't exactly understand the details and if its one way only. https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/discord/

thingsiplay ,
@thingsiplay@beehaw.org avatar

That happens if a single company controls the community (Reddit, Discord) and its closed source on top of it..

qjkxbmwvz ,

Something something Drake meme Discord/IRC...

kbal ,
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Well, that's one more small group of people learning not to trust Discord. I hope someone is on hand to show them how to set up a matrix server in a jurisdiction not affected by the DMCA.

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Discord should be used as an easy way to keep people up to date and host links, like a replacement for Twitter. Not too be the sole source of hosting info. They should still have websites the discord points to.

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Both Suyu and Sudachi began as forks of Yuzu, the emulator that Nintendo sued out of existence on March 4th.

Developers of Yuzu’s forks also claimed they were changing the code further, among other practices, in an effort to avoid pissing Nintendo off.

But it’s possible that people were sharing Nintendo’s cryptographic keys, firmware, or even entire pirated games in these servers despite those commitments.

Even if Suyu and Sudachi were infringing, Discord’s policy does not suggest it would permaban, much less nuke entire servers, on the first offense.

Discord did not answer questions about whether these users were repeat copyright infringers, had received any previous warnings, or were forwarded any takedown requests.

Nintendo isn’t just targeting Switch emulators with its latest round of takedowns but also some of the tools that aid them: it sent DMCA takedown requests to GitHub to remove 27 forks of the Sigpatch Updater, as well as Lockpick_RCM, kezplez-nx, and Incognito_RCM, which help Switch owners and developers obtain encryption keys.


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