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Evangelical app 'Bless Every Home' is mapping personal information of immigrants and non-Christians in a bid to conduct door-to-door religious conversions and “prayerwalking” rituals targeting them.

It puts a lot of features at the fingertips of the faithful, including the ability to filter whole neighborhoods by religion, ethnicity, “Hispanic country of origin,” “assimilation,” and whether there are children living in the household.

Its core function is to produce neighborhood maps and detailed tables of data about people from non-Anglo-European backgrounds, drawn from commercial sources typically used by marketing and data-harvesting firms.

training videos produced by users show the extent to which evangelical groups are using sophisticated ways to target non-Christian communities, with questionable safeguards around security and privacy.

In one instance, he points to the sharable note-taking function and suggests leaving information for each household, such as “Daughter left for college” and “Mother is in the hospital.”

increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking calls on believers to wage “violent prayer” (persistently and aggressively channeling emotions of hatred and anger against Satan), engage in “spiritual mapping” (identifying areas where evil is at work, such as the darkness ruling over an abortion clinic, or the “spirit of greed” ruling over Las Vegas), and conduct prayerwalking (roaming the streets in groups, “praying on-site with insight”).

newly arrived refugees might well find a knock on the door from strangers with knowledge of their personal circumstances distressing—and that’s before these surprise visitors even begin to attempt to convert them.

placing people of different ethnic and religious backgrounds on easy-to-access databases is a dangerous road to go down

atrielienz ,

Let them come. I take this as an opportunity to radicalise them.

RagingHungryPanda ,

So one thing about the note taking (from an ex-Christian), something that is very common is the fake prophesy or telling you details of your life that you think the person shouldn't know. I guarantee you they're using these notes as a way to say that God told them something about you. I'm saying this because I've been in churches that did that

Edit: many say they don't encourage it, but it doesn't matter if someone gets "saved"

Flax_vert , (edited )

That's a lovely idea! /S

AngryCommieKender ,

Do you want to weaponize the autistism against you? Cause this is how you weaponize autism against you.

Ask Shia Lebouff how well that goes.

AngryCommieKender ,

I sincerely hope that when they come to my door again, I am in the middle of carving up a side of beef, again. Last time some Mormons knocked on my door, I opened the door, and what they saw was a 6'3" blonde Viking with no shirt, a bloody carving knife, and wiping blood off my hands. When I saw who it was I yelled over my shoulder, (to an almost empty apartment,) "Hey guys, you can let the goat go! I just found us a couple of virgins!"

They retreated rather quickly.

aesthelete , (edited )
CommunityLinkFixer Bot ,

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Holyginz ,

Even if it didn't, what's the point in spoiling the fun fantasy that it did? I choose to think of it happening fondly.

Holyginz ,

I love this comment lol

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

If you tell someone that they are trespassing and to leave and not come back. Can you make a citizens arrest if they return?

BlitzoTheOisSilent ,

IANAL, but I don't believe so. Most/all states have laws that allow people to access your property to come to your front door/porch, I forget the exact name, unless your property is fenced with clearly visible "private property/no trespassing" type signs.

However, once you've asked them to leave, they have to leave or they can be arrested/escorted away for trespassing should they refuse to and police become involved. In your example, if they were to come back after being asked to leave, I believe yes, but you couldn't arrest them, the police would have to.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

In that last case, where you have asked them to leave and not come back... but they do. There is a thing called a citizen's arrest. Allowing nonpolice to make an arrest and detain a person. But what the law says and what you can do is often not the same.
I just imagined haveing your doorbell record you saying to never come back, then slapping handcuffs on them if they do. Kinda sounds like fun.

BlitzoTheOisSilent ,

Could be, but personally, I wouldn't recommend it. While there are citizen's arrest laws and I'm sure they've been used, I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, and it appears each state has different standards that need to be met to constitute a "citizen's arrest," with some states not allowing/defining it.

Personally, my concern with attempting a citizen's arrest would be doing so without meeting my state's/country's standard to do so. My state's statute explicitly states it is a crime to illegally restrain someone against their will, and even states that doing so is skirting the line of kidnapping.

Having a kidnapping charge thrown at me doesn't seem worth it for a jackass who doesn't want to leave my property but isn't doing anything else (like attempting to harm me or damage my property). I'd play it safe and just let the police handle it, their qualified immunity will let them do whatever they want and face no consequences anyway.

But again, IANAL, and YMMV, so do with all this as you will.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Yeah, wouldn't be me. I have kids and no time for the disuption. I also don't live in an area where I would have to worry about such things. But I would love to see someone who does test it. Might put a damper on these people.

FunkPhenomenon ,

wonder if that's how the folks that sell God keep finding me? I keep turning them away but they keep coming back

MyFairJulia ,
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

I had such an apologetic coming up to me. When i told them my name was "'Julia'); DROP TABLE neighborhoods;" they were immediately irate!

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemm.ee avatar

Aw, little Julie tables! I wondered how you turned out after your sister left town. How's the transition coming?

MyFairJulia ,
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

It's fine. Transitioning to Couchbase was fine. Was a bit weird getting used to NoSQL... Oh you mean my hormone therapy!

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemm.ee avatar

And how is... Mr? Neighborhoods?

friend_of_satan , (edited )

Big brother who art in heaven, surveillance be thy name. Thy data come, recon be done, stored in SQL as it is in heaven. And lead us not into frustration, for thine is Consistent, Available, and Partition tolerant. COMMIT ;

select * from prayer_requests where response = 'yes' ;

0 rows returned
bpalmerau ,

I want to have your children. In the nicest possible way.

FlihpFlorp ,

Well according to his user name he’s a friend of Satan so that’s pretty cool

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

I've always enjoyed this game show about the Bible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

SacrificedBeans ,

More like "Bless some homes, over others"

kromem ,

I always kind of wonder how it would go if I ever actually answered the door to proselytizing folks.

They'd clearly be unprepared to answer about the late insertion of the fundraising reversal in Luke.

Or the ambiguous engendering of God.

Or the eroding of a matriarchal tradition in early Judaism.

Or that a lot of the stories were probably appropriated from elsewhere.

How long before they fold their arms and say "well I don't know about that" or "I'll have to ask my preacher"? Will I stay on their list for another round of discussion, or not?

To date the only folks I've interacted with around my neighborhood were Mormon missionaries, who are just so well mannered and youthfully naive I didn't have the heart to pull out a map that shows the distance between Manchester, NY and Jerusalem.

'Angry' proselytizers though I feel like I'd have at least a few words for their deaf ears to balance things out for the rest of the neighborhood having to hear their words in turn.

wavebeam ,
@wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

Are you trying to convince them they're wrong? Or just get them to leave you alone? Wouldn't it be simpler to just tell them you're a believer (in whatever thing they're preaching to you) and then wish them a blessed day or whatever? That would surely get them off your back.

Fedizen ,

While they're both bad and creepy in their weird ways I do find the sovereign citizen types more understandable than the creepy nosy cultists.

Holyginz ,

With them it's at least more understandable cause a lot of them it's desperation. I don't have sympathy for the ones who are desperate because they don't want to pay child support, but I atleast understand it. The nosy cultists just want to be superior

afraid_of_zombies , (edited )

If my name, or the names of anyone I care about, is on the list it won't be on for long.

Edit: they have virtually no security and it took me about a minute to see my neighborhood and see my address as well as half my block.

Zink ,

Wow, the Christian app that lets you sort people by religion ALSO lets you sort them by race and ethnicity?

I am shocked. SHOCKED!

Well, not that shocked.

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